I just bought a smarty and need to pick it up from the mail next week. I was wondering if theres a way I can find out what version of stock software you have before I go ahead and start using this thing. I too have a pretty sweet stock setup I think, it gets awesome fuel mileage and everything seems to be dialed in perfect (overhead is even accurate to .2!) and would hate to lose that.

I too was under the impression that it saved your old stock software... and thus this was the failsafe option modding my truck without leaving any traces to void warranty etc.

Guess I need to decide if I'm going to take that risk, if not I'll probably have a smarty forsale I was really excited for this....

 

yes you can. before you you update your ecm you can do this.

Turn the key on without starting the truck. Press and hold the #5 key and then plug the smarty. Once the smarty is plugged in release the #5 key and wait for the update screen.

Now press the #1 key and write down the string of numbers and letters.

That will be your stock software.


I hope this helps,
Bob

 

UPDATE!!!! I reflashed my smarty with the latest and greatest software.. Loaded it up drove to KC on Saturday and back home.(250miles) Not any different had crappy mileage and still slugish from the original software.. Im going to call my dealer and see if they can tell me what software i had. And if so if they can do a reflash. If they can well i will have a smarty for sale.

 

No replys?

 

Reply to what? If you don't like the Smarty sell it up... you will have absolutely no trouble getting rid of it.

Personally I think you got used to the driveability of the Smarty and when you went back to stock you realized your truck was a dog. I know, I've done it myself. The only thing I don't get is why you would buy a Smarty and then be so adamant about using your stock software? The only thing I can think is that you don't have a transmission that can support the low end fueling, otherwise you would set it at SW #9 and leave it there like so many others have. In which case I completely see your point, but that is not the Smarty's fault.

 

I wonder what the effects of the ULSD, B5 and a winter blend all together are doing here?

These three things combined is certainly a factor in economy.

 

actually don, on winter ULSD with my smarty on #5 stacked with my dr.p predator i have seen a 0-2 mpg gain over and above summer LSD, i have yet too notice a decrease in power. I notice no mpg gain when temps dip into the -18*C range, and when temps are up around 0*c is when i see the larger gains.

 

Thats not the point! I should be able to go back to stock when ever i want for what ever reason i want! Thats one reason in paying almost $700.00 dollars for what was talked up to be the "BOX OF ALL BOXES" And yes im sure alot of people would be really upset to loose an awesome stock program... If you think about what you just said it is really ignorant? Your saying if i buy a box and it performs when it is installed thats fine but if i want to take it off for what ever reason and it dosent run the way it did before the box its my fault? Give me a break!

 

Don M.

I was also wondering the same thing. Keep in mind here that I have not installed my Smarty yet, sitting here on my desk. I have however installed the Quad STD I got at Christmas. I lost a little mileage when the ULSD came out, I again lost a little mileage when the winter blend hit, I again lost mileage when the temps started hanging in at around 35-40, and when I started using the Quad at only the 30hp level, guess what - I again lost mileage. My last full tank mileage was a whopping 11.37mpg down from 15.3mpg!!!! That was hand calculated like all my other tankfulls.

I am now on the 60hp setting on the Quad to see what effect that may have on fuel economy. I do not think I will use the 100hp setting anyway, so I do not plan to test it's fuel mileage. As soon as I am done testing the Quad stuff I plan on disconnecting it completely-putting in the plug. Then I will run a couple tankfulls to re-establish a baseline and install the Smarty.

Anyway, I'm guessing that there is a very narrow fire-power range to this ULSD, maybe much more narrow that the LSD, and the fuel is not producing the power therefore it is taking it's toll in combustion and we are throttling it more to achieve the same power as before. When the ULSD first came out I felt like my truck had less power, that is what made me look at adding a power box/programmer stack.

CD

 

Hooked...
You should have read the instructions/website FAQ BEFORE you dl'd.

I am not sure why you are mad about something that is specifically stated.

 

I am getting horrible mileage and easier "cold fuel filter plugging" with ULSD.

It really stinks. A night at -20 F netted me 0 psi of lift pressure for 5 minutes. Sorry CP3...

 

Unless the companies in the US aren't manufacturing ULSD to specs, you shouldn't see a large drop in mileage, actually you shouldnt see any!! Up here we didnt even get the transition phase, 1 day we were on LSD, next week we were on winter ULSD. Nobody up here is complaing about depleted mileage other than the usual 1-2 mpg drop associated with winter blend and colder temps!

 

Man I'm glad I don't have any ECM problems

All I know is all the guys who have tried my friends SMARTY loved it, and when they went back to stock programming, there trucks were fine! End of story for me.

Personally, I really don't see the issue here, because the SMARTY did EXACTLY what you would have been told it was going to...had you read the website! I don't even have a 24v, or CR, but I know exactly what it can and can't do because I've done some research on it for my friends!

IMHO,
Chris

 

I suspect we have more than one problem cooking here. A loss of 4MPG is almost unheard of when the only thing you change is the ECM programming.

Remember we can only change a small percentage of the overall economy picture. Probably still under 35% of the entire power produced by the engine is available to us to tweak and change. The other 65-70% is just wasted.

To loose 4MPG is huge.

 

This is exactly my point. I am not debating whether or not you should be able to go back to stock. Heck, I'm not even trying to argue with you. I am just trying to point out the facts. Part of the advertising for the Smarty is that it... well, I'll just quote it right from the website so there is no confusion....

You should have read a little more into it before you decided to load the Smarty and give up your "precious" stock SW. I really cannot imagine a stock SW being that great, but if you say so I guess it has to be.

Just another little FYI; If you take it to the dealer to have it reflashed they are going to give you the latest version available for your model/year, not the one your truck was shipped with from the factory. In fact, if you have ever taken your truck to the dealer during the warranty period for anything, anything at all, and there was an update available you were reflashed. That is DC's protocol and they do it without asking or in some cases even telling you.

Slow down and read the directions next time grasshopper!