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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 01:22 PM
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Please let me know where your brother works so I can make sure....

TO NEVER LET HIM WORK ON MY TRUCK! LOL...Diesel Mechanic my butt!

Hopefully you just had a typo..maybe a Juice with Volumizer? But...for a 03...that would include pressure on top of pressure and the Volumizer on full tilt is too much pressure by itself!

But what do I know...I am not a "Diesel Mechanic". LOL

To summarize...Dodge should cover legit claims...not this one.
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by cquestad
Please let me know where your brother works so I can make sure....

TO NEVER LET HIM WORK ON MY TRUCK! LOL...Diesel Mechanic my *ss!

Hopefully you just had a typo..maybe a Juice with Volumizer? But...for a 03...that would include pressure on top of pressure and the Volumizer on full tilt is too much pressure by itself!

But what do I know...I am not a "Diesel Mechanic". LOL

To summarize...Dodge should cover legit claims...not this one.
No he is a mechanic he just had the ez edge box on with the volumizer thats it
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 01:26 PM
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That is the whole point...he has no idea what he is doing!

Tell your bro...."Here's your sign..."
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by cquestad
That is the whole point...he has no idea what he is doing!

Tell your bro...."Here's your sign..."
he works on the semis though, the dealer took it apart thats all i know of right now. So they must be going to fix it
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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On a friendly note...he should read this and or another forum more often. There is a ton of valuable knowledge that it sounds like he (anyone) could benifit from.

People (including myself) are shocked at this stack. The Volumizer has a rep for having too much pressure and the EZ would only magnify it. So in other words...the nozzle/injector body damage was a direct result of this. He more than likely put 300k or miles on his CP3 in that 60k and destroyed his pressure relief valve. All or those componets should be checked/replaced as well.

He should know that his choices did this...and should NOT try to slip this one by the dealer. It is not even in the grey area...it is simply a diservice to all other dodge owners. Good luck.
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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Yes i agree that he should read this forum. I have learned a lot from this forum. My truck has been turned up by some of the best. I know that a lot of people do this though to the dealers. or try to do it. i guess it put fuel in his oil also when they blew. Who knows what he will do next. O well maybe he will earn but doubt it. I thnk taht he only runs the ez mostr of the time then kicks the volumizer in when he needs it
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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Lets put it like this........

A "Edge EZ" is to water.......like a "volumizer" is to 110volts.........they DO NOT....CANNOT.....go together....without something breaking.

Opps....something did break

Oil/Water
Water/Electricity
Bush/Hussein-Osama
Cummins/Being owned by Ford
Republican/Democrat
Blonde/Brains
High Pressure Boxes (STACKED YET)/Healthy Fuel System

See how they all relate........they don't!
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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Guys, I think you are being mean.....His brother only used it when he needed it. !?!?! I think those injectors were doing pretty good to last that long. I'm sure the other two are doing pretty good also. I'm sure STAR will have their say in the matter. If the trucks can get to over 26k stock what do think an EZ definitely on 4 with a Volumizer on kill could do. The relief valve should be shot to crap. Don't worry he's not getting a new set of injectors....just a set of rebuilds from the rest of us who have accidently dropped an injector before him (not me I'm an SO not to be confused with SOB) ks
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 10:06 PM
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This is a load of crap. You think he really "blew" 4 injectors at the same time? Stacking those two boxes isn't going to shoot your rail pressure to like 40k psi, either. He probably just popped the relief valve.

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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 08:03 AM
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i had one go and they warantied it. they even detailed the truck because of all the oil and diesel all over it.
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 08:38 AM
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Realsquash,

What is 1.2 x 1.2? 1.44?

What is 1.44 x 24,000psi? 34,560psi.

You be the judge...I agree the pressure relief valve is definately popped or weak as well. The injectors were damaged to some degree...FOR SURE.
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 09:11 AM
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cquestad, where did you get your numbers?

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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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It takes a 20% increase in rail pressure to make a 100 hp...give or take a little if it is a "simple pressure box" (does not use extensive boost fooling).
Box the EZ and Volumizer are both a simple pressure box (the boost the fool is a top end cap so "over boost" codes are not thrown boxes like Quads, TS Peformance, Banks do more than that...so the demanded fuel pressure per hp is lower). The re-shape the fuel pressure curve by a "factor" and essentually demand more pressure from the CP3. It can be a variable factor or a constant one...but that does not matter when floored...

So...at fuel throttle...both those boxes stacked...the first takes the fuel pressure signal...and multiplies it by 1.2....then the next box takes that signal and and multipiles in again by 1.2...hence the 1.44 factor applied to the original 24,000 psi pressure.

These are numbers may vary a little, but either way, it is easy to explain what went on here.
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 11:48 AM
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yes fuel went into the oil he said so they had to clean it all out
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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Also...I am sure the CP3 may not even be able to delivery that pressure...and the pressure relief valve was also reducing it...but it would maintain the highest pressure the valve would allow most of the time the truck was operating....

Kinda like driving floored for 60,000 miles....
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