It replaces the banjo bolt on the fuel line that goes into the CP3 injection pump. Follow the line out of the fuel filter and where ever it ends, you put the banjo bolt in there. The 3rd gens might be different than the 2nd gens but the pillar pod makes the blind spot noticeably bigger. Not a big deal driving on the highway but it is when your going through a parking lot or crowded neighborhood.

 

I'll be installing my set of three in the cubby hole on Thursday. I called Diesel Manor and they made sure I got the banjo bolt, NPT tap, and SS line. I'll post when I get it done.

 

i put autometer gauges on the A pillar mainly for looks, and because they are in my line of sight

in the day there is no blind spot difference. At night i wish i would tint the things. They are so bright it will make you roll your window down and stick your head out to see what you are doing. Need some way to dim them for sure

 

ISSPRO Gauges will fit the Autometer cubby hole mount. I had to play with it a little bit, but they fit just fine. I think the center console is a perfect place, as they are easy to read and do not add to the existing blind spot. I think the A Pillar mounts for more than two gauges are too much in your face.

Most of your time will be wiring, but it is super easy. Wire lights into the dimmer switch, and tap into the cig lighter for power.

 

I'm still trying to decide where to put the gauges that I'm about to order. I'm trying to look ahead for the future because I'll be getting the Juice with Attitude too, so I'll need somewhere to mount that Attitude.

Right now I'm thinking of maybe mounting the gauges in the cubby hole and then mounting the Attitude on the A-pillar. To anyone with the Attitude mounted like this, what does it do as far as a blind spot is concerned? What are the other options for mounting the Attitude assuming that I do not want it mounted above my rear view mirror??

 

I'm curious about this. What exactly was the problem? Why do you say they aren't compatible?

 

Like ISSPRO's new white face/green light guages to match Dodge's instrument & lighting setup.

Don't want to lose the use of the A-pillar grab handle to guages & have seat heater controls in the dash cubby location. A pod of guages on top of the dash looks out of place to me [besides drawing attention like A-pillar guages] but the above windshield pod between the computer & rear view mirror kinda looks like it belongs there.

Can't make up my mind whether guaging fuel pressure or tranny temp would be more important to keep an eye on. [Don't plan on bombing my truck, her main duty is gonna be pulling a 5er.] And what about mounting the EGT pyro right after the turbo vs the exhaust manifold? Appears to be a heck of a lot easier, avoids potential turbo damage from metal chips, and would give you a more accurate read of the temp the turbo's being subjected to.

 

I thought the consensus was that mounting the probe in the exhaust manifold gave more accurate readings for what temps the turbo is being subjected to??

I'm kind of nervous about drilling into that exhaust manifold so I'm all for post turbo installations, but it seems like most people go into the manifold.

 

Has anyone done the Dashboard mount (behind the steering wheel on the dash) i see everyone talking about the A-pillar and the console mount, but no one talks about the dash mount? I am not doing the A-pillar for the reason that i am already blind at night, with those lights right at eye lvl i dont think i would be able to see squat threw my side mirror. If anyone can give feedback on the dash mount. I dont want to loose my cubby hole because i stick alot of crap in there.

Also for the lighting issue at night time, you can put a dimmer switch from radio-shak in with the power line for the backlight. but still any light there at night for me will blind me even more.

 

I didn't like the dash mount ones because most of the ones I've seen block some of the other gauges.

 

Not the column mount, the mount above that....let me see if i can get the pic.

http://www.dieselmanor.com/gauges/ga...dge-isspro.asp

its on this page, its called the Dash Top Mount

 

there is a big debate over pre turbo post turbo. here is my take from what I have read. the main debate is that most people think that pre turbo gives you more accutate piston temp's. some people argue that there is pressure in the exhaust manifold and presure builds heat so the number is elevated there. some will also aurgue that a probe can fail and a probe going through your turbo is not good.

bottom line is the people who are arguing this are not engineers they are just poeple who think they know what they are taking about in most cases. they may or may not but they don't design deisel engines for a living either. There is something called thermal dynamics and you could model this whole problem and then actually tell people factual data. most of the arguemnt I hear is more tribal knowlege/hearsay. I have not seen one post about someone using actaul engineer knowlege to solve the problem so to speek.

I know one member here claimed that cummin's recomened post turbo. this interested me. When I do think I will try to talk to someone at cummins. I don't mean to sound like a a hole or anthing but an engineer from cummins is smarter about diesels than anyone psting here. I would like to hear their take on it if in fact they do recomend post turbo. then agian this guy could have been full of crap as I have not called yet. it may be they just don't like risking probe failure and pre turbo is safer so you could just change your probe every so often to try to elimiate the issue. I would just want to hear that from someone who is smarter than I am.

short story long I think you can do it either way you just have to understand why you put it where you did and the limitations of doing it that way. there are advantages and disadvantages to both way IMO. I am sure someone who had a probe go through a turbo is a post turbo guy. I am sure there is someone who was running there truck 1400+ post turbo and is now a pre turbo guy.

 

I did exactly what you're referring to - I actually emailed Cummins and that was their reply - install the probe post turbo. I'll tell ya what - I was a LOT less nervous about drilling and tapping that hole for the probe in the turbo outlet pipe than I would've been pre-turbo. I was still careful, and greased the bit, magneted and vacuumed the area, etc., while I was drilling.

If any of you want the actual text of the message from Cummins PM me and I'll get it to you.

 

Hoss - it was just that I had to use a couple of spacers in the gauge mounting brackets so the gauges would stay 'tight' in the pod. No big deal - it took me about 5 minutes to figure it out - just used a few spare nuts I had laying around for the spacers.

 

Oh...sorry. THAT one I just don't like. But that's just me. I'll either go the full pillar or the cubby hole when I do mine. Most likely I'll put the real gauges in the cubby hole and the Attitude on the pillar.