i have the newest version with cl and have the 2017 predator stacked with it, this combination i find works very well together very smooth no surging or other issues, i think the 2017 makes the td pull just as hard up high as it does down low, i always found the td to be a little weak in the higher rpms, this combo takes care of this little issue i feel. the truck pulls way harder than my hot juice did and is way easier to take out if needed, this combo is not for the stocker though[ warning may make torque glow] lol.