I agree, I believe that it probably is ULSD for the most part, it might not be down to 15ppm but it is much less than 500ppm. If you read my earlier post yesterday, that is what I said. The only thing I and everyone else have to go by is the sticker on the pump.

 

I would be curious to know how LSD will kill an injector quicker than ULSD will. To make that statement you must have some kind of facts to back it up or is it just an opinion. If I have an opinion, I state it as such, is that what you are doing? I would really like to know.

 

Welp you boys can take this for what it’s worth. Last week I went with my buddy to pick up his 2000 Dodge 2500 pickup from the repair shop. The fuel pump at the fuel tank went out, which took out the injector pump. To the tune of 3,000.00 $ Jack asked the mechanic about using this new ULSD the mechanic suggested to use some sort of fuel additive. With the lower surfer in the fuel these days it will take out the injectors in time from lack of lubrication.
That’s their story, and I’m sure their sticking to it!

 

That is a very common problem on that vintage of truck and probably has no relation to the new fuel.

 

You can't believe the sticker on the pump. Our local station still has the LSD stickers on the pumps. I asked the clerk inside about it and they had no idea. So I called the home office of the company that owns the stations. They said they have been putting ULSD in those tanks since october but haven't gotten around to having the pumps certified yet. I'd say that is the case most everywhere. It's hard to say for sure, but I'd be willing to bet that just about all the diesel is ULSD by now.

 

Luke that is my understanding as well in regards to the injector pump.
The mechanic was giving Jack a heads up for future problems with the new fuel on his older Cummins engine. Said in time the injectors will go out, with out the proper lubrication from this new ULSD.

 

Sulfur itself has no lubricating properties, so the lack of sulfur means nothing as to the lubrication found in diesel fuel. The process that eliminates or reduces sulfur (during the refining process) also happens to reduce lubricity. The manufacturers know this (it's not like it's a secret that only internet commandos know about) and they put lubricating additives back in the fuel before they sell it to the public.

 

You mean they put lube back in to it as they fill the tanker for delievery to the station. Also some times the fuel does not get the lube it should get do to screw ups or computer problems. Also other fuels ( JP8, heating oil, #1 and gas) some times gets mixed in it when coming off the pipe line so this also adds to the problems to our fuel.

 

The EPA has really cute disclaimer about running ULSD in older diesel engines. They will not be liabel for lack of lubrication in the fuel system. I can't find a link but its a good indicator of what you can look forward to. Maybe its the same legislators that think a piece of diesel powered equipment lasts only 10 years.

 

Who is really getting screwed on the ULSD is farmers, Since sulfur was reduced a few years back we loose injector pumps on tractors every 1000 Hours That around 1,200 each......... We haven't had to fill our tank with ULSD yet and grieve the day.... I also will never run ULSD without additive through my CTD

 

In Canada all diesel sold @ the pumps is ULSD. Commercial and farm grade is to be phased out from LSD to ULSD in the next 5 years. That's very interesting to hear some of you have been using LSD in your 6.7 with no problems (so far). My 6.7 won't be here till April. I would like to hear of any problems with the 6.7.

 

ALL diesel except farm diesel sold in the US has been ULSD since october 06'. It is illegal to have anything else in the pumps. Thanks EPA.

 

you thing says your from lubbock, go by Sam's club, they still sell LSD as of last week when i topped off. The fuel industry is bad about not telling people what is in their fuel, as for additive, that is BS, they may put a little, but not near enough if any. It is like suppliers putting certain percentages of ethanol in gasoline. What about Bio in an 07? Is there anywhere near lubbock to get bio?

 

Just because there's a sticker on a pump saying LSD doesn't mean that's what is in there. It could be that enough ULSD run through to dilute it to acceptable levels of sulfur. It could also mean they haven't bought a new batch of diesel in several months and still have old LSD in there. But, according to the law, what PanteraGSTX said is correct.

 

I have said a number of times that I thought the fuel was probably ULSD. The tanks are not certified so the sticker on them still says LSD, that is all I have to go on. I'm sure that it is mostly ULSD, that's why my truck is still going with no problems after 19,500+ miles.