Houston Dealer Recommending DPF Deletes...
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Houston Dealer Recommending DPF Deletes...
I talked to a dealer in Houston today after a client of mine told me that they recommended getting the H&S DPF Delete kit....
The Service manager told me that they have sooo many emissions related issues that they are trying to get ahead of it and they are actually installing them!! >> He told me that they have a lot of people that bought the 6.7 to tow a boat 1 or 2 times a year and then barely use the truck for what it was intended for after that >> He said that it is almost to the point that he is scheduling the next appointment for the trucking that is leaving...
They said that don't recommend programmers because other dealers will have a problem with that but they are starting to bend on the DPF's....
He told me that they recommend H&S over BADP primarily for price but he said both were well built.
Also they had a problem with too many people coming to them for warranty work when they didn't buy from them... I am trying to get in good with them so they won't have a problem with me.
Oilguy
The Service manager told me that they have sooo many emissions related issues that they are trying to get ahead of it and they are actually installing them!! >> He told me that they have a lot of people that bought the 6.7 to tow a boat 1 or 2 times a year and then barely use the truck for what it was intended for after that >> He said that it is almost to the point that he is scheduling the next appointment for the trucking that is leaving...
They said that don't recommend programmers because other dealers will have a problem with that but they are starting to bend on the DPF's....
He told me that they recommend H&S over BADP primarily for price but he said both were well built.
Also they had a problem with too many people coming to them for warranty work when they didn't buy from them... I am trying to get in good with them so they won't have a problem with me.
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They won't put it in writing, I sure wouldn't, good way to get fired. Sounds like you found an awesome dealer, don't think I'd mention his name on here either.
I'd delete DPF and EGR in a heart beat. If they made a kit for my Jeep, and I had a cool dealer like that one, it'd be gone.
I'd delete DPF and EGR in a heart beat. If they made a kit for my Jeep, and I had a cool dealer like that one, it'd be gone.
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They asked me not to mention their name but he was up front, honest, and very frank about the issue... I will tell you that they are a major dealer in Houston... I think I know where I'll be buyin the next truck! hahaha
I just couldn't believe it when my customer told me about it and that they are going to install it for him... I had to call and hear it for my self! It would be worth the 1.5 hour drive to deal with an honest dealership!
OG
I just couldn't believe it when my customer told me about it and that they are going to install it for him... I had to call and hear it for my self! It would be worth the 1.5 hour drive to deal with an honest dealership!
OG
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anyone removing or altering emissions equipment in the USA can face severe penalties.
Texas has always been a wildcat state, but until they succede from the union (l built in Houston for 7years and Ft worth for one.) they are still under federal laws. he not only is setting himself up for a big fall, but also setting each one of you up. it is hard to use the golly gee weezz excuse when the information is published over and over for the last 30yrs. doesn't texas still have the by-yearly vehicle inspections and roadblock inspections like they use too?
my dealer here in CA has a nightmare with 6.7 also. i cannot wait for mine to take a dump, it is my only work vehicle and there aren't to many rental vehicles that can tow a 14,000lb trailer. but, i sure as hell will not pay a huge fine or jail time for the truck. i do know that i will take immediate legal action.
sounds like this could result in a class action suit against dodge and cummins that will put the ford vs. international 6.0L to shame. ford, sterling, and several other mfgs use the same engine and technology.
cummins is the one responsible for the mess, the pressure should be put on them directly. they have published this report about correcting the problem. their story was it was early model 6.7s. I'm not sure what that means as far as production quantities or date of mfg.
Texas has always been a wildcat state, but until they succede from the union (l built in Houston for 7years and Ft worth for one.) they are still under federal laws. he not only is setting himself up for a big fall, but also setting each one of you up. it is hard to use the golly gee weezz excuse when the information is published over and over for the last 30yrs. doesn't texas still have the by-yearly vehicle inspections and roadblock inspections like they use too?
my dealer here in CA has a nightmare with 6.7 also. i cannot wait for mine to take a dump, it is my only work vehicle and there aren't to many rental vehicles that can tow a 14,000lb trailer. but, i sure as hell will not pay a huge fine or jail time for the truck. i do know that i will take immediate legal action.
sounds like this could result in a class action suit against dodge and cummins that will put the ford vs. international 6.0L to shame. ford, sterling, and several other mfgs use the same engine and technology.
cummins is the one responsible for the mess, the pressure should be put on them directly. they have published this report about correcting the problem. their story was it was early model 6.7s. I'm not sure what that means as far as production quantities or date of mfg.
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anyone removing or altering emissions equipment in the USA can face severe penalties.
Texas has always been a wildcat state, but until they succede from the union (l built in Houston for 7years and Ft worth for one.) they are still under federal laws. he not only is setting himself up for a big fall, but also setting each one of you up. it is hard to use the golly gee weezz excuse when the information is published over and over for the last 30yrs. doesn't texas still have the by-yearly vehicle inspections and roadblock inspections like they use too?
my dealer here in CA has a nightmare with 6.7 also. i cannot wait for mine to take a dump, it is my only work vehicle and there aren't to many rental vehicles that can tow a 14,000lb trailer. but, i sure as hell will not pay a huge fine or jail time for the truck. i do know that i will take immediate legal action.
sounds like this could result in a class action suit against dodge and cummins that will put the ford vs. international 6.0L to shame. ford, sterling, and several other mfgs use the same engine and technology.
cummins is the one responsible for the mess, the pressure should be put on them directly. they have published this report about correcting the problem. their story was it was early model 6.7s. I'm not sure what that means as far as production quantities or date of mfg.
Texas has always been a wildcat state, but until they succede from the union (l built in Houston for 7years and Ft worth for one.) they are still under federal laws. he not only is setting himself up for a big fall, but also setting each one of you up. it is hard to use the golly gee weezz excuse when the information is published over and over for the last 30yrs. doesn't texas still have the by-yearly vehicle inspections and roadblock inspections like they use too?
my dealer here in CA has a nightmare with 6.7 also. i cannot wait for mine to take a dump, it is my only work vehicle and there aren't to many rental vehicles that can tow a 14,000lb trailer. but, i sure as hell will not pay a huge fine or jail time for the truck. i do know that i will take immediate legal action.
sounds like this could result in a class action suit against dodge and cummins that will put the ford vs. international 6.0L to shame. ford, sterling, and several other mfgs use the same engine and technology.
cummins is the one responsible for the mess, the pressure should be put on them directly. they have published this report about correcting the problem. their story was it was early model 6.7s. I'm not sure what that means as far as production quantities or date of mfg.
And thank you for your input....
I vote that we drop the dpf's and secede from the union... Who's with us?!?! I love Texas (except for Austin)OG
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the problem i ran into with badp is that we ordered a kit and was told it was going to be 30 days. after 60 days we called them up and canceled the order. Called H&S and got the kit within a week.
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anyone removing or altering emissions equipment in the USA can face severe penalties.
Texas has always been a wildcat state, but until they succede from the union (l built in Houston for 7years and Ft worth for one.) they are still under federal laws. he not only is setting himself up for a big fall, but also setting each one of you up. it is hard to use the golly gee weezz excuse when the information is published over and over for the last 30yrs. doesn't texas still have the by-yearly vehicle inspections and roadblock inspections like they use too?
my dealer here in CA has a nightmare with 6.7 also. i cannot wait for mine to take a dump, it is my only work vehicle and there aren't to many rental vehicles that can tow a 14,000lb trailer. but, i sure as hell will not pay a huge fine or jail time for the truck. i do know that i will take immediate legal action.
sounds like this could result in a class action suit against dodge and cummins that will put the ford vs. international 6.0L to shame. ford, sterling, and several other mfgs use the same engine and technology.
cummins is the one responsible for the mess, the pressure should be put on them directly. they have published this report about correcting the problem. their story was it was early model 6.7s. I'm not sure what that means as far as production quantities or date of mfg.
Texas has always been a wildcat state, but until they succede from the union (l built in Houston for 7years and Ft worth for one.) they are still under federal laws. he not only is setting himself up for a big fall, but also setting each one of you up. it is hard to use the golly gee weezz excuse when the information is published over and over for the last 30yrs. doesn't texas still have the by-yearly vehicle inspections and roadblock inspections like they use too?
my dealer here in CA has a nightmare with 6.7 also. i cannot wait for mine to take a dump, it is my only work vehicle and there aren't to many rental vehicles that can tow a 14,000lb trailer. but, i sure as hell will not pay a huge fine or jail time for the truck. i do know that i will take immediate legal action.
sounds like this could result in a class action suit against dodge and cummins that will put the ford vs. international 6.0L to shame. ford, sterling, and several other mfgs use the same engine and technology.
cummins is the one responsible for the mess, the pressure should be put on them directly. they have published this report about correcting the problem. their story was it was early model 6.7s. I'm not sure what that means as far as production quantities or date of mfg.
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The problem isn't with Cummins or Dodge. It's the EPA. They are the ones that dropped everybody into the fire with this crap.
Interesting reading over on the the TDI forum. They are saying the reason VW hasn't released the new diesels into the US is because the fuel samples pulled in various areas failed. The fuel marked ULSD (15ppm) was coming up in the 100-200ppm range. So why isn't the EPA inforcing the rules if this is true?
We will be doing the H&S delete and the EGR when it arrives.
MikeyB
Interesting reading over on the the TDI forum. They are saying the reason VW hasn't released the new diesels into the US is because the fuel samples pulled in various areas failed. The fuel marked ULSD (15ppm) was coming up in the 100-200ppm range. So why isn't the EPA inforcing the rules if this is true?
We will be doing the H&S delete and the EGR when it arrives.
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They won't put it in writing, I sure wouldn't, good way to get fired. Sounds like you found an awesome dealer, don't think I'd mention his name on here either.
I'd delete DPF and EGR in a heart beat. If they made a kit for my Jeep, and I had a cool dealer like that one, it'd be gone.
I'd delete DPF and EGR in a heart beat. If they made a kit for my Jeep, and I had a cool dealer like that one, it'd be gone.
If they did put it in writing, they'd be giving the EPA the evidence they needed.
Chrysler would either be sued by the EPA, or they'd have to show the EPA that the dealer is no longer operating.
Recommending DPF deletes is foolhardy, but I can understand that a dealer may feel stuck, since they have customers to take care of, and emissions stuff that makes that harder to do.
jmo