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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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How is the 6.7 in the cold?

Any of you guys from up north/mountain-men use additives to stop the gelling?

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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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I'm not living up north but have the same concerns as you. Did some digging and had a couple of conversations with Stanadyne and with Amsoil regarding their fuel additives and company warranties.

They have had questions asked by several people regarding the comments that we shouldn't use fuel additives. I asked because I am as confused as anyone and I've designed diesel fuel injection components and know several people right in the middle of this technology. Both companies indicated their additives are fully ULSD compliant and could not explain how or why using the additives might cause problems - seems they did their homework and several people are having good results using the products in ULSD trucks. I ran Stanadyne Blue over 200k in my old truck and it probably contributed to the long life of the fuel system components.

Then we get into the marketing side of things and seems I heard that Dodge might be selling their own fuel additive? I cannot believe that components used in their additive are any different or exclusive such that it would protect emissions equipment in any way better than others, but until we get better at how fuel additives can be standardized like oils, then may the best marketer win. If we didn't have the CJ-4 spec on the oil, I suppose we would have to use the manufacturers oil as well. I'm running Stanadyne Blue in my 6.7 and have had no problems.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:22 PM
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I'm currios about this too.I live in AZ where is not very cold compared to ther states.But i do go to the east coast sometimes.Dodge doesn't recommned any additves and up until now i haven't used any.
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Old Dec 21, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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How about you Canadians? I know there is a guy from MN who reads these post, any problem gelling?
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Old Dec 21, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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Additives are a shot in the dark , who knows what is in your fuel for sure [ what the refinery did , what the trucker did , what the fillings station guy did ]
Then are we chemists ? How is want we put in going to react to what is unknown .
That being said , when I can get it , 20 % bio-diesel , #2 , Amsoil Cold Flow .
Other wize #2 & Power Service , white bottle .
I have not had any gel issues , some times down to -38 * F = that time not plugged in it took a lot of effort to start the 85 VW Jetta diesel , the Cummins got to -25*F with out plugging in , cycled grider heater twice , a little throttle , no problem .
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Old Dec 21, 2007 | 10:47 AM
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My 5.9 would sound like it was coming apart at that temp, Do you have or have you heard of how the 6.7 is acting at that temp.

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Old Dec 21, 2007 | 11:07 AM
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Haven't heard of any cold weather issues with the 6.7 , but I do not look at those post [ 6.7 ] unless its in the help forms .
I also plug in if I can or remember starting at about 40*F , figuring that its better for millage .
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Old Dec 21, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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I use Opti-Lube winter formula when it's cold and 2 cycle the rest of the time. Already have seen -18F in Steamboat. I plug it in below 20F and starts every time.
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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Purchased my 08 about two months ago. Dealer recommended Stanadyne and I have had no problems. It's -15 wind chill today and she has started and ran fine.
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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Thanks

I got home sick today walking through Bass Pro Shop but then again its not
-15....glad our 6.7's fight the cold .....
I just hope when I'm ice fishing all day and want to start her up she does without a hick up...I'll take an excuse to stay for a few more beers anytime except when its my life savings and my reputation for having a dependable truck on the line.,

Thanks for your guys input

Just wanted to add one more thing..today the wife drove the truck for the first time and she loved the power and layout of the new center divider.

Emissions is working like it should I smell something when we park it after highway miles..must be the cats burnig off the crap like they suppose to.

anyways i feel like we got the baddest thing on the block, even with the 3 cats in the tailpipe...another way to look at is that the time our warranty is up we should be CEL free.
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Minnesotamike
I got home sick today walking through Bass Pro Shop but then again its not
-15....glad our 6.7's fight the cold .....
I just hope when I'm ice fishing all day and want to start her up she does without a hick up...I'll take an excuse to stay for a few more beers anytime except when its my life savings and my reputation for having a dependable truck on the line.,

Thanks for your guys input

Just wanted to add one more thing..today the wife drove the truck for the first time and she loved the power and layout of the new center divider.

Emissions is working like it should I smell something when we park it after highway miles..must be the cats burnig off the crap like they suppose to.

anyways i feel like we got the baddest thing on the block, even with the 3 cats in the tailpipe...another way to look at is that the time our warranty is up we should be CEL free.
Minnesotamike..off topic..what do you and all the viking fans think of AD up there?
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Most diesel sold in MN is already winterized when you buy it. But if your not sure of the fuel you buy then add 10 oz of Power Service in the white jug to 34 gallons of fuel.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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hey mike i live in Minnesota too, and all i do is blend my number 2 diesel in with some number 1 that and i carry a bottle of diesel 911 im not sure if its approved for the 07 and new but it works great if your truck is starting to gell just dump that in and it cures the problem
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 12:12 AM
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Hello All

If your looking for a additive (pour depressant) to mix in with your #2 fuel to keep it from gelling in cold weather I would recommend BG Products part #215. It works great to keep you fuel from gelling down to a round 0 deg F. look up a local distributor at BGPROD.com
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 02:22 AM
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I'm not sure what kind of fuel you guys are getting, but the temps you've all posted are a **** in the ocean compared to what we get up here and even farther North, to where I frequent often with my company truck. If fuel is gelling on you guys at freezing or just below, I'd be concerned about the fuel I was getting.

I cannot ever remember adding any additives when I was driving OTR into northern BC, Yukon, and NWT. The only reason I occasionally put any in my '07 is because I park it in my garage for long periods. That is if I even remember when fueling up. I rarely remember to put anything in my Ford F350 company truck when I'm farther North as well.

I have a buddy with an '08 6.7L. I doubt he's ever added a drop of any additive and his truck stays outside - garage isn't big enough.
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