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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 05:15 PM
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Question Who,s running amsoil in your Diffs

My truck turned 15,000 miles this week. I am going to change the front and rear diffs out to amsoil.Also thinking to do the same for the tranny fluid.Any pro or cons on the amsoil products.Thanks for any Info.coobie
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 05:29 PM
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Although I own only a 1500 4x4, I use Amsoil in everything but the transmission. The reason being is that Chrysler does not have a drain plug for their torque converters, so you wouln't be able to fully drain the transmission. I used my owner's manual to decide which grade of fluid to get and how much. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 06:23 PM
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I changed my rear diff at approx. 11k to Amsoil 75W-90 (recommended weight from owners manual). I didn't notice any increases in fuel mileage like Amsoil says, but I never believed that anyway.

I will say the stock Chrysler fluid (it's a synthetic) was foamy when I drained the housing (Note: make sure you run the truck hard to warm up the fluid before changing it). The Amsoil does not seem to foam (I ran the truck for a few miles and checked the level after the fluid change - no foam W/ Amsoil).

Good luck!
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 06:28 PM
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The only prob I heard is about voiding the warranty.....I took my truck to the dealer. Service guy saw my Edge, air intake and 4 inch exhaust and said no prob with warranty with the mods. I don't see why you have to change the oil in the differentials, especially at 30k. Most vehs require a change at 100k. Anyone know why we have to change the differentail oil so fast?????
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 09:11 PM
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The only prob I heard is about voiding the warranty.....I took my truck to the dealer. Service guy saw my Edge, air intake and 4 inch exhaust and said no prob with warranty with the mods. I don't see why you have to change the oil in the differentials, especially at 30k. Most vehs require a change at 100k. Anyone know why we have to change the differentail oil so fast?????
100K? wow. i have two rock crawlers and i never go more than a year. i am in a warm climate, so i use 85W-140, but i still do it every year. 30K is smart. you are talking about a small cost versus a new third. all you need is a drain pan, some rtv, and some new fluid. i prefer the amsoil products. i use them for everything but the motor.
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 06:41 AM
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I use Amsoil in everything ! I've found out that everything runs somewhat cooler. To answer chrismez's question about changing the diff oil; from the factory, the new gears will have very small burs on them, when the gears start meshing, the burs will wear off and become small particle in your oil. I wouldn't want to run my gears with small particles in the oil, that is not very good for the close tolerances the gears have to turn, so, it's a good idea to change the diff oil every 30k miles. It's better to be safe than sorry, especially with the investment and expense of these trucks !
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 06:55 AM
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Amsoil lubes

I have run Amsoil in my truck from almost the beginniing ( bought the truck with 21,000 miles on her ) and I think they do help the truck run cooler and perjaps get better mileage. I get 19 to 21 mpg on the open road and not nearly as good in town dodging stoplights. I'm going to the 85-140 gear lube in the rear diff this spring, though. The maghytec covers are a real blessing .
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 07:28 AM
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Changed everything underneath at 7k miles. Frt & Rear end got Amsoil Series 2000 75w-90. Transfer case Amsoil ATF and 6 speed to Redline MTL.

You can save money by using the AMSOIL 75w-90 gear oil instead of the Series 2000 75w-90. I don't have the book on my right now to state the Product Codes.

Some people have been experiencing a grinding/slipping type noise in the rear end, when starting from a stop and making a left turn after switching to the Amsoil. They have drained it out and replaced with, I think, Valvoline Synthetic. Do a search on the forum here...
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 08:36 AM
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Some people have been experiencing a grinding/slipping type noise in the rear end, when starting from a stop and making a left turn after switching to the Amsoil. They have drained it out and replaced with, I think, Valvoline Synthetic. Do a search on the forum here...
slipping with a LSD? if so, you need a specific amsoil to allow the LSD to work properly. that could be the problem.
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 10:16 AM
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Hm, the new generation Dodge uses AAM gears/axles. The AAM does not have clutch plates as a normal LSD does, it operates completely differently. To include, "apply the emergency brake slightly to make the other wheel/axle engage." I fyou want a normal LSD in your 05 your trying to find, you have to order it special.
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 12:28 PM
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I think the amsoil gear lube stinks. I used it from 15-30k and had the gear noise/chatter around turns etc. Several people have had it. The case was also pretty dirty as well. I have since switched to Mobil 1 75w90 and the noise/chatter was gone right away. Combining the fact that the m1 is easily available everywhere, it's also API certified and should have have any warranty issue, you are in compliance - if that means anything to ya. I'd steer clear of the amsoil coob, try m1 or redline.

Some people get completely sucked in by amsoil's marketing , and really believe ALL of their products are spectacular. I pick and choose. I like their 4stroke/atv 0w40 oil. I also like the 15w40 HDD oil. In any case, I think mobil makes a better 5w40(delvac 1) than amsoil does so I use that - and mobil's gear lube.
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 11:16 PM
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Running amsoil 75w90 with 4.10s and lsd no noise, no chatter. I'm turning 37 inch tires .
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 04:20 AM
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I've been running Amsoil 75W-90 with no issues either, and will put it back in at the next lube change too.

Quite frankly, Lightman isn't incorrect either: My nose sez all gear lube "stinks", even the syn stuff.

coobie, if you're under the truck doing all this, go ahead and buy 3 quarts of fluid for the transfer case too.
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 08:38 AM
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I would love to have said I used the amsoil with no probs. So many people have had probs though, and I didn't really even notice the noise till I started paying attention. In any case, for the record with stinkyness The m1 diff lube has almost zero smell. I will say the amsoil stuff is really pungent!
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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As far as noise/chattering of the rear diff goes, I like to know that it in fact is working.

On one extreme you have lockers, where there's no noise/chatter from the diff - but you do have the noise/chatter from the tires skidding during a turn. You know for a fact that the diff is solid.

On the other end of the spectrum, you have open diffs, where there is no noise, no chattering, and "no" traction. Going around a turn is turbine smooth.

My truck does have some chattering once in a while during tight turns - and I've attributed that to a limited slip that is working as it should. Its not locked like a locker, but not slipping like an open. I've driven both 2nd and 3rd gen trucks that did this.

So that leads me to think that if you're experiencing a totally smooth/quiet diff during a turn, that Limited slip you have is more likely to be slipping, than engaging.

Bottom line is that I want my truck's rear LS Diff to be tighter, rather than slippier.

The only problem I've ever had with Amsoil is that a gallon jug broke in transit. It was replaced free of charge; but I never had an opportunity to find out from those other folks whose packages were douched with that nice smelling syn oil.
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