X2! I think this thread should end with that post, cause we all know where its gonna go.

 

Your kidding right??

"It is a violation of federal law for them to void your warranty because of an aftermarket performance item UNLESS they can PROVE that the aftermarket item is what caused the damage/failure."

To post something like the above is really close to trolling. Its blatantly wrong and one would have to be literally living in a cave NOT to realize it. Cmon'! Stating that a warranty can't be voided for using a PERFORMANCE part???? Expecting to not get drilled on that is really naive.

Its not even close to what Magnusson Moss was intended for. People READ stuff like that and there 100 threads about voided warranty and performance products.

ANY performance product is emissions tampering. Removing any part of the exhaust or adding a piece, boost fooler, that changes the way the motor fuels is emissions tampering. Period!

The OP made a mistake when he took it in with the mods on it, done deal. Now we have 4 or 5 posts about how it is illegal to void warranty and people are AGREEEING with them! Do you begin to see my problem with it?

 

Ford didn't want to warranty my friends 6.4 because he wasn't using Ford oil . So I don't think they would treat you any better.

Did your truck sound any different before you lost a cylinder?

 

Um, ok. Did you not read my post on the first page? I guess not. Number 2 and 5. I will break it down for you. In number #2, I stated that he was for taking it their with the EDGE. In number #5, I stated that the "well prove it act," the Magnuson-Moss act is basically a joke. Not gonna happen. In number 13, I stated that where does he (randellp84) state EGDE is emission tampering, cause I don’t see it that way. He asked for a correction if he was wrong, not a laugh!!! Well, he WAS wrong. I said where does EDGE IS emissions tampering come across inHIS not so correct post? IN HIS POST??? It doesn’t. He does not say it. I also said in number 13 that "yet both DO the same to your warranty." They void it. Instead of basically calling the guy an idiot like bob4x4 did, I beat around the bush and said it a nicer way in my previous post. I realize Bob4x4 was telling him that the EDGE is messing with your emissions. Voiding your warranty, but the arguing post came down to whether or not Randellp84 stated the Edge is emission tampering. He apparently did not know. So tell me where I say "Stating that a warranty can't be voided for using a PERFORMANCE part???? " I didn’t. Don’t jump my ****. You go back and read Mr.

 

I had a big name performance seller destroy his diesel engine and try to get it covered under warranty. He took off the programmer and nitrous bottle before having it towed into dealership of coarse. You could see where everything was mounted and it had brand new intake on it. He was injecting it with nitrous or propane. Melted several pistons and valves. He could look you straight in the eye and say it was all stock. That's when I went to his web site and found pictures and a write up on everything he had done to the truck. When I told him that he paid me the 5 hours tear down and towed his truck to his shop. His truck was put on complete restriction. Picture of his completely stock truck.

 

I'm not sure they are still making money. The local Dodge dealer just closed the doors after 40 years in business. I now have to drive 30 miles to the nearest dealer to get warranty service. I agree that installing running boards should not void the warranty on the rear axle but think about it...... with the marketing hype and HP wars and tow rating competition between Dodge, GM & Ford, why not factory install an Edge, Smarty etc so you could claim bragging rights of 50% more HP & TQ than the competition? Don't you think that 500HP is more of a load on the engine internals and drivetrain components than 305? Again, if you look at the industrial and commercial app HP & TQ ratings for the Cummins 5.9 you will see that they are way lower than in the Dodge pickup.....for a good reason!

The bean-counters have done the math and the extra HP is not cost effective re marketing advantage vs warranty claims. And yes, warranty claims (legit or not) are factored into the price of every product...electric razors to pickup trucks.... just like labor, materials, Fat Cat Exec salaries, utilities and other overhead expenses.

 

Forget everything I said in my post. Apparently I was mis-informed. Please accept my apologies. Didn't mean for this to turn into a big dispute, sorry.

 

It's not just Dodge. Chevy will void the warranty if you put on larger tires. Ford won't even open the hood if it has an edge box.

Pete

 

So the moral of the story is throw all your mods and crap in the closest river or creek. and drive the truck normally untill the warranty is up. save yourself thousands on repairs, smoked tires, and buying the hot rod stuff in the 1st place. if 300+ hp aint enough then get a semi
dad bought his Ford with about 160k on it, and now its got a lil over 250K. (real miles, thats 400km) and all hes done to the engine is one injector and 2 glow plugs. (they said it had 4 injectors sometime before we got it) then hes done a water pump and batteries the year before last (no biggie with those kind of miles.) oh and maybe 2 fan belts and some normal front end service. oh and we've Never touched the tranny! reading this fourm scares the hell out of me on these dodge trucks, cuz i can see they're no where near as reliable and durable as the old Ford

 

You have no reason to apologize.I have seen several threads like this one.They all end up like this.

 

It'll get you about as much time as pulling the tag off your mattress.

I was at the local dealership parts department yesterday. They had about six bullydogs on display. What would they have to say if you bought the truck and box from them when it needed warranty work?

 

Sort of depends on which state you are in. Some states now require diesels to be smog tested like gassers. If the same rules apply, you won't pass with aftermarket mods (if the tech is savvy enough to find them).

Luckily, you don't need a smog cert to sleep on your tagless mattress but you will need one to drive your truck!

Re the dealer selling Bullydog units, I'm guessing if you bought one from them they would have a hard time denying you warranty work at their own shop, but what happens if you melt a piston 2500 miles from home?

 

[QUOTE=packard8;2431263]Sort of depends on which state you are in./QUOTE]

Exactly. They still let you guys have the internet out there?

 

Ill keep you guys updated. There are pulling the head off tomorrow. So if I get stuck having to pay for the repair, what would you guys do different on the engine. Im not letting the dealer do it, Im going to take it to Mid Atlantic Diesel.

 

Also is it possible to build the engine where it is reliable with the edge or a smarty?