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thejeepdude 06-11-2004 01:57 PM

VGT turbo on 2005?
 
So the rumor is floating around that a VGT turbo will be on the 2005's. Anyone have any further data to back that up?

stevenknapp 06-13-2004 09:38 AM

Two thoughts.

1 - The only changes my dealer noted were color and a factory sunroof.
2 - They just revised the engine for 04.5, I doubt they would put two big changes so close together.

thejeepdude 06-13-2004 02:37 PM


Originally posted by stevenknapp

2 - They just revised the engine for 04.5, I doubt they would put two big changes so close together.

Unless they WANTED to put the VGT in the 600 this year but it wasn't quite ready yet, but the new engine still had to be forced into production to meet the EPA req's... just a thought... guess we'll all know soon enough :p

OT-OF-Here 06-13-2004 08:11 PM

VGT
 
VGT,...stands for what or who.

Scubasteve 06-13-2004 08:19 PM

Variable Geometry Turbo. ( thanks Rusty for the correction :) )


Its not a bad thing as long as its done right and parts from a Kia aren't used on it!

Jason:)

RustyJC 06-13-2004 08:27 PM

With all respect, VGT = variable geometry turbocharger.

Rusty

OT-OF-Here 06-14-2004 07:25 AM

VGT
 

Originally posted by RustyJC
With all respect, VGT = variable geometry turbocharger.

Rusty

Sorry, just not tuned in on this VGT stuff. An example of a VGT Turbo would be? and who is making them? Benefits?

RustyJC 06-14-2004 08:34 AM

A variable geometry turbocharger has moveable guide vanes for the turbine (hot) section. These vanes are controlled by the engine control system. At light loads or low RPM, the vanes are in their minimum area position - this makes the turbo behave like a "small" turbo for quick spooling and minimal smoke. At heavy loads or higher RPM, the vanes open to increase the nozzle area to reduce exhaust backpressure and pre-turbo EGT as well as to prevent turbocharger overspeeding - effectively making the turbo behave like a "large" turbocharger.

Rusty

LinearX 06-14-2004 10:43 AM

Re: VGT
 

Originally posted by OT-OF-Here
Sorry, just not tuned in on this VGT stuff. An example of a VGT Turbo would be? and who is making them? Benefits?
Volkwagen has been using them for a few years now on their TDI engines.

signature600 06-14-2004 02:48 PM

Also, the 6.0 PowerJokes use them, as if that is a good thing.

That is why they sound so wicked straitpiped leaving a stoplight. Sounds like a 747 taking off.

Chris

Ray Roton 06-14-2004 03:25 PM

Rumor I heard is they are switching to the VGT right away (sometime this month)

FrankB 06-15-2004 06:29 PM

VGT turbo on 2005?

The June 2004 issue of Motor Trend's Truck Trend, which has a very nice write-up on the 600, says in part
" ... a larger compressor within the same HX35 housing, an electronically controlled wastegate (to get the benefits of variable geomerty without complexity), and a controller with about 50-percent more code in it. An EGR system isn't necessary, which saved roughly 50 part numbers and a lot of plumbing..."

Hope this helps.
cheers f

http://www.trucktrend.com/features/t...ram/index.html

PourinDiesel 06-15-2004 11:57 PM

Dont believe rumors.........

Smkndzl 06-16-2004 12:09 AM

The VGT is also water cooled , and from the factory rep said , it could also act as a exh brake.... it would be a good rumor but I doubt that DC will reprogram the ecm for them along with added sensors required for it to work .

OT-OF-Here 06-16-2004 08:16 AM

vgt questiono
 

Originally posted by FrankB
VGT turbo on 2005?

The June 2004 issue of Motor Trend's Truck Trend, which has a very nice write-up on the 600, says in part
" ... a larger compressor within the same HX35 housing, an electronically controlled wastegate (to get the benefits of variable geomerty without complexity), and a controller with about 50-percent more code in it. An EGR system isn't necessary, which saved roughly 50 part numbers and a lot of plumbing..."

Hope this helps.
cheers f

http://www.trucktrend.com/features/t...ram/index.html

Is this turbo on the 04.5 600 or just gonna be on the '05 600?


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