Oh I don't mind doing my own work and very very rarely let anyone else do it but my point is why lay under there when you don't need to. The remote system works. I drive a few more miles too. I'm getting ready to turn 123000 in four years and three months.

BTW, I'm going to try and remember to chuck that old LP in the mail to you tomorrow. Got a note with your address laying on the desk right now.

Joel

 

[quote author=Gary - KJ6Q link=board=20;threadid=13450;start=15#129636 date=1050721737]- personally, *I* consider doing my own work on my truck relaxing and interesting - guess I'm sorta weird... [/quote]<br><br>That makes two of us. It's great mental therapy and comparitively cheap.

 

8) 8) Coolness. I also have eight antique tractors I work on and show and pull with. 8) 8)

 

I have to agree with DD4X4. You spend much less time fixing things and driving these AWESOME machines by putting a little more money into it (Synthetic Oil). I have seen various engines that have been saved by the fact they ran synthetic fluids when the blew the oil filter off the unit or took a rock into the oil pan at 65 mph while pulling a trailer. When their mechanics took a look at the engines they could not believe how clean they were and the fact that they did no internal damage.<br>Oh, yeah and for those of you that live in cold climates you will really like the fact that these oils pour at such a cold temperature which does mean that the engine will get oil and turn over much easier when its cold.<br>I guess that's enouh soap box for now, I admit mine is AMSOIL from head to toe, runs cooler and even quieter now.<br>Remember guys keep it clean, this is only my opinion and does not reflect the opinion of the host site or it operators.

 

Gary, whether or not I keep a truck for a long time I still prefer to use a good synthetic. At the time I was expecting to keep the '01 for a very long time, but then as you know these '03s came along and I just had to have one!<br><br>I did weigh costs over dino and even with 20,000 mile changes it cost maybe 15-20% more than running Delo 400. But those costs include oil analysis which gives you a great checkup on your engine's health and how well the oil is working.<br><br>I wanted a quality oil because if I DID keep a truck 300,000 miles, not only do I want it running at 300K, I want it to still have a healthy engine and be able to crank it out and smoke them tires and what have you.<br><br>I plan on the same for the '03, although I am considering a Base III oil like Rotella syn instead of the more expensive IV stuff, and then running 15K instead of 20. I don't want to mess around with the inconvenience &amp; expense of procuring Delvac 1 or Amsoil this go-around (although I change my mind daily).<br><br>Vaughn

 

Hey Guys, Here's my 0.02 Take it or leave it. I am presently running Rotella in my '03 CTD, I have learned from experience that this product takes care of an engine. I have a '85 BMW 524td (My work vehicle) that I've run with Rotella since I got it. It now has 330K miles without a rebuild and still runs strong. The synthetics are good but if you take good care of your vehicle, it will be fine.

 

The discussion at this point is not whether the oils are as good as each other but the amount of time spent laying around under the vehicle. The dino oil will give the same protection if changed properly but it will take more of your time. It boils down to what you like best and what makes you feel the best.

 

What about those who are concerned about warranty issues? Dodge doesn't make a distinction in their maintenance schedule between dino and synthetic oil, do they? I read change the oil at 7500 or 15k, depending your driving habits.

 

Parshal- Cummins recommends not going to synthetic until 20,000 miles. So I don't think it's a warranty issue.

 

[quote author=PADZZ link=board=20;threadid=13450;start=15#130491 date=1051027174]<br> Parshal- Cummins recommends not going to synthetic until 20,000 miles. So I don't think it's a warranty issue.<br>[/quote]<br><br>This I realize but the scheduled oil change intervals are no different, from a warranty perspective, whether you're running synthetic or dino oils regardless of when you start using synthetic. If someone runs synthetic and extends the oil change interval, Dodge &quot;could&quot; use that to void the warranty. The same goes for extended drain intervals using secondary filter systems.<br><br>This is not an argument whether synthetic drain intervals can or can't be extended over dino, it's just that Dodge makes no distinction in the owner's manual.

 

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[quote author=PADZZ link=board=20;threadid=13450;start=15#130491 date=1051027174]
Parshal- Cummins recommends not going to synthetic until 20,000 miles. So I don't think it's a warranty issue.
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This I realize but the scheduled oil change intervals are no different, from a warranty perspective, whether you're running synthetic or dino oils regardless of when you start using synthetic. If someone runs synthetic and extends the oil change interval, Dodge &quot;could&quot; use that to void the warranty. The same goes for extended drain intervals using secondary filter systems.

This is not an argument whether synthetic drain intervals can or can't be extended over dino, it's just that Dodge makes no distinction in the owner's manual.
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I would say that if DC was looking at replacing a damaged engine, the owner would have to produce evidence to show that the oil was changed at intervals per the DC manual. The use of synthetic oil, bypass filters, centifuge filters, oil analysis, and the like would be immaterial. The question would be &quot;show us you followed the interval guidelines, and prove it&quot;.

 

<br><br>Exactly.