Mileage came back up after cutting the hose. 4 mpg!
Smoke diminished in a big way about 200 kilometers after the hose was cut.
Last oil analysis was excellent and was done when I had the dealer do the service.
I may expect problems from DC, the dealer agrees that my issue here is something that can happen when the breather hose freezes up.

With the amount of pressure still in the hose and engine when I cut the hose [engine off] I can see now how a frozen hose can create havoc. What I was thinking is if the pressure was still in the hose several minutes after the engine was shut off, theres probably a good chance that it did not sustain major damage, otherwise the seals would still leak and the pressure would be letting out somewhere else. There was also a small hiss from the hose where the end is.

The truck has 50,000 kilometers on it. I'm not hiding the EZ and the VA has been off since the snow fell.

I still believe the frozen hose caused the issue and to what extent, we will know shortly.
The hose was an attempt to eliminate the fumes in the cab as per DC and the dealer.
The dealer was given the go ahead to do whatever was needed to solve the fumes in cab.

Scotty

 

from you have said, i would be surprised if dc gave you any trouble. you and dealer have well doccumented the trouble and the dc approved fix i suspect you are ok allready. and thanks for not bringing up lemon laws, been far to much of that nonsense posted here lately.

tim

 

Theres no lemon law up here and when registered commercial I cannot even arbitrate it.
I had good success with this truck other then this issue that has stemmed from the fumes in the cab.
I would expect DC to restrict my warranty if I had done something that did damage directly.
Extending the breather hose was a choice made in agreement with the dealer to resolve the fumes in the cab.
I tried Delo, Rotella, Petro Can and now Mobil 1 and it smells the same irregardless and the smell is also exhaust, not just the crankcase hose. Extending the hose helped but did not eliminate the odors or fumes. Now with the hose cut...its much worse.

I like this truck too much to be wanting to deal it off. I will work it out somehow.


Perhaps the roving eyes of DC can convey this to the dsm in my area. thanks.

edit:

The dealer gave me a new Hemi to drive until we figure this out...so its not all that bad.

 

Picked you bumper up...btw. It will be in Caldwell, ID for safekeeping till you want it Scotty...

Did Piers send the "package" to Cladwell yet?

Thanks!

 

LOL
Odd how you posted this. I bet I was emailing you at the same time.
I replied.

Thanks!

Scotty

 

I wasn't necessarily talking about you, my post just ended up under yours.

The funny thing is, people spend big bucks on a heavy duty, diesel powered truck and expect a luxury car ride and performance of the same value. Aint't never gonna happen.

In order to counter act oil smell they block off the engine vent

For whats it worth, if an oil was used that didn't need to have additives to achieve CH-4, there would be no odor!

Kinda like buying a champion race horse and feeding him garbage, then complaining because he has diahrea

 

I think you should read my initial post again.

Nowhere did it say I plugged the hose...it was extended as per DC and the dealer to move the fumes away from the cab. It did not STOP all the fumes and some are exhaust not crank fumes.

I also take care of this truck with nothing but the best in rated oils and fluids.

Just call the dealer and ask what they put in. All synthetic and top quality.

Hopefully my posting this will save some folks the hassle and inconvenience that I am experiencing. Obviously their fix did not work.

Obviously some folks draw conclusions from ...hmm...their own ideas and not what is posted.

Cheers.

Scotty

 

The day I stopped using Rotella oil is the same day I never smelled the oil again.

Rosmella really excites my olfactory. Nothing else that I've tried seems to.

Andy

 

No Neck,

I know Opie ran a venturi into his exhaust to try and create a vacuum on the breather hose due to excessive crankcase pressure caused by twins. It might be worth considering in your case as well. Whatever you do dont attach a soft line anywhere close to the exhaust. He had one melt and partially plug his breather.

Nathan

 

If there are no oil leaks after the breather hose problem was relieved,I would say everything is fine. If a seal were damaged it would leak imediately. If your oil consumption is still low, it may be in the turbo seals or valve guide seals. The breather tube issue with fumes could be an interesting fix. Possibly put the breather tube into the intake before the turbo, but I don't know if the inner cooler would object.

 

I know the smell you are referring to. This is different...its a mix of exhaust and crank fumes.
I replaced the exhaust and all the turbo gaskets...still smells bad while sitting at a set of lights or idling.

 

Thanks Pencil Neck 2.

I will see what the dealer says and offer this as an option. At this point I am leaving the truck there til its fixed and will let them try all the cures. I am also going to ask for what the limit is for attempts to resolve this as I have had the truck for over a year with no solution.

 

I'm not sure if these guys would be able to assist if push came to shove.
http://www.camvap.ca/eng/index_1.html

 

Almost a year ago I replaced my breather hose/bottle with about 5' of clear plastic tubing running down and back to the ground. I've looked at the hose in cold weather and warm and have never seen any oil or water/condensation inside the tube. This morning it was about 20 F and after a 20 min drive, not plugged in overnight, I stopped and looked at the tube - clear and dry. Under what conditions do we suppose water comes out of this in any big way? Super cold?

 

I went from about 32 f to -20F in about two hours. I could feel it in the truck.

Otherwise I have been in the cold with no problems.

I have the truck back. In order for them to do any work on the truck for oil loss I have to log my oil consumption over the next few weeks and report what the conditions where.

I have to put if I was doing city driving, highway or towing so we can see when is uses the oil the most or if there even is a pattern. Also note the odometer and fuel mileage.

I spoke to Cummins in Indiana today and the tech said that I might be ok and that doing this evaluation will help.

We steam cleaned the engine and ran it for awhile, then checked and there are no visible leaks from gaskets. Coolant is good and the oil looks good too.

Time will tell. At least its documented.

Scotty