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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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off road diesel

does anyone know if running off road diesel will void your waranty?
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 10:15 PM
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I don't know about the warranty, but it will drain your wallet if discovered, to the tune of a $10,000. fine.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 08:15 AM
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Yeah I wouldn't worry about the warranty as much as the DOT or other law enforcement busting you. Not likely that they would check but if they are in a bad mood they can....and will check. And I wasn't sure on the price but I know that it is not cheap.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 09:08 AM
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Depends on where you live as to whether or not you need to worry about fines. Some states have no fine at all, while others are a lot. It seems like the more left leaning your state is politically the higher the fine. The more rural states tend not to get as freaky about it as your "sealed over with asphalt states" or states with really large population centers.
Check your local laws to see.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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I've heard that Dodge Dealers will not only void your engine warranty, but will report you to the IRS.

YMMV


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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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Now the real question is why are you asking? Did you put off road diesel in your truck?
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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so will it void the waranty?
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 08:36 PM
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I wouldn't see why, around here (ohio) the fuel is the same now. It's just dyed red for tax reasons. I can't see why that would have anything to do with the truck warranty. However if it was me I probably wouldn't take it to the dealer with red fuel, they don't seem to need much of a reason to take the easy (voided) way out.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by phox_mulder
I've heard that Dodge Dealers will not only void your engine warranty, but will report you to the IRS.

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I'm gonna call BS.

DC may give you some grief but they dont stand a chance on voiding your warranty. Off road is no differant that on road just has a red dye.

And as far as the IRS goes, they could give a crap less out red fuel. It's the DOT you have to watch out for.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 10:49 PM
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no, it will not void warranty.... i have ran it since new in two trucks and nobody ever said a word. During katrina they actually allowed people to run red for a few months.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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I'm gonna call BS.

DC may give you some grief but they dont stand a chance on voiding your warranty. Off road is no differant that on road just has a red dye.

And as far as the IRS goes, they could give a crap less out red fuel. It's the DOT you have to watch out for.

Actually it does go back to the IRS since it's tax evasion. And I'm not sure on the rules for every state but I've heard they can also look at how many miles are on your truck and compare that to how many were on the title and back charge you for every mile you drove it. So good luck, hope your getting it cheap enough to justify it. (to those who are using it)
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 06:45 PM
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well I'm not trying to pick a fight here but I will defend him a little..... We have a farm truck that never even sees blacktop just field roads and we run red in it. On occasions we have put some in, in a pinch when we are running low and need to still get around for a while before going into town to get green. Another circumstance is Alot of these trucks are used in the oil fields and never even get liscenced for the road and they never have problems getting warranty work done when something goes down.... Just a few things to keep you guys calm before you jump him for asking!!
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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Unless DC thinks that every last one of their trucks is used for road travel then I don't see why or how they could? I worked on a wholesale nusery, they had 10 or 15 trucks that NEVER left the farm (3500 acres). I wouldn't think that a warranty should be voided for that?

As far as I have ever heard it's the same fuel.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jfaulkner
I wouldn't see why, around here (ohio) the fuel is the same now. It's just dyed red for tax reasons. I can't see why that would have anything to do with the truck warranty. However if it was me I probably wouldn't take it to the dealer with red fuel, they don't seem to need much of a reason to take the easy (voided) way out.
FYI Off road diesel (RED Diesel) is Not the same as On-Road Diesel, It contains a higher Sulfur Content and yes it will empty your pockets if the FEDS, Public Service Commission, Dept of Transportation among others were to happen to stop you and stick that nasty little probe into your fuel tank and find ONE more than the allowable PARTS PER MILLION of that RED DYE in the sample. BYthe way they CAN LEGALLY STOP YOU just as they Do hundreds of tractor trailer rigs daily for any reason they see fit, simply because Diesel is considered a -SPECIAL FUEL- and is regulated as such.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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The red dye does not any additional sulpher content to the fuel. It only adds color.

I remember picking up about 600,000 gallons of diesel fuel marine from Malaysia and it was really high in sulpher and was certainly not red. A diesel inspector found what was suspected to be rust inside one of my emergency diesels and almost failed me during a surprise diesel inspection until we tested the fuel and found that it wasn't rust but sulpher residue. I passed that diesel inspection with flying colors, and was the first ship in many moons that didn't have an engine red tagged afterwards.
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