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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 09:55 AM
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Easy there trigger. I am glad your Dad has 450K on his tranny, and I am glad you know of your buddies auto that has held up, and so on and so on. I am glad you know that a BUILT 48RE will be better than a stock Allison
. I am still calling the stock 48RE and the 4R100 in the trucks that I have been are junk. They shift like crap, and do not hold up in MY experience. I am not going by what my Neighbors cousin best friends father has on his truck. I am also NOT saying the Allison is the icing on the cake, just stating the obvious, it is a better tranny of the 3, in MY experience. So, you like your Dads tranny, great. I am really glad that his has held up.

Comes down to this, when I stop seeing so many other blown up 48RE on this webiste, as well as the piece of crap Lift Pump on our trucks, then you can say they are quality pieces. But then again, the 48RE is no more

So, from my experience the 48RE is crap. Oh yeah, if you want a real testament to the 48RE ask my best friend and his 06 QC LB 2WD DRW auto with 8K and a completely stock truck that has had my trailer behind it one time and just got out fo the shop with a blown up tranny Yeah, real good trans there
Trigger? LOL All I said was my father's tranny has held up fine and that the 48RE isn't junk. I wasn't even talking about BUILDING the internals of the tranny, merely swapping a TC and VBs to strengthen it up. I know that your friend's, cousin's, uncle's sister might have blown his tranny on his stock truck pulling your 8K...but you say that you hear a LOT on these forums about people blowing their 48REs...well, I do too, but it's after they modify their motor a good deal. I have yet to see somebody blow their tranny BONE stock on this forum...I have only been here a couple months though, so I will knock on wood...I wasn't trying to flame or upset you, so please don't take my last post the wrong way. Perhaps it sounded worse than I was intending, so I apologize.

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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by derek.mckay
Trigger? LOL All I said was my father's tranny has held up fine and that the 48RE isn't junk. I wasn't even talking about BUILDING the internals of the tranny, merely swapping a TC and VBs to strengthen it up. I know that your friend's, cousin's, uncle's sister might have blown his tranny on his stock truck pulling your 8K...but you say that you hear a LOT on these forums about people blowing their 48REs...well, I do too, but it's after they modify their motor a good deal. I have yet to see somebody blow their tranny BONE stock on this forum...I have only been here a couple months though, so I will knock on wood...I wasn't trying to flame or upset you, so please don't take my last post the wrong way. Perhaps it sounded worse than I was intending, so I apologize.

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No worries here either. Merry Christmas.
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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Thanks for the insight and the opinions.

SSminnow, you said that the 48RE is no more. Are you referring to the replacement of the tranny in the '07's? What is DC replacing this with?
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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68re 6 speed automatic will be in the 2007 models equipped with the new 6.7l CTD.

In all seriousness, if you took a poll, you'd find most people think the 48re stands up well when running at stock hp.

I'm sure Mr Minnow knows all about those other trucks. I have driven 2 of the 3 (The Ford and Dodge auto's). I couldn't say anything bad about either. As far as calling it junk...I don't think so.

I DO have 1st hand knowledge of the performance of the 48re. Of the 46k I drove this year, 20k of it was towing. No problems.
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 08:16 PM
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Your on a Dodge forum your going to here Dodge is best.My opinion is go drive one and buy the one you like best because they all have problems there is no perfect truck.I jumpen ship next summer and going to try a Duramax. Just cause I like them ,the ride,quietness,power,and looks.I bet its just fine for reliability.
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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Your on a Dodge forum your going to here Dodge is best.My opinion is go drive one and buy the one you like best because they all have problems there is no perfect truck.I jumpen ship next summer and going to try a Duramax. Just cause I like them ,the ride,quietness,power,and looks.I bet its just fine for reliability.
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 10:58 PM
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I had been a die-hard Ford owner since 1963. This is my first diesel and I chose the CTD hands down over the other two. I cannot comment about the auto tranny since I have the G56. Personally, I have had auto trannys and sticks and prefer the stick for towing, actually I prefer the stick period. I am like torquefan, I just don't trust automatics, I was left alongside the road once by one without any warning, will not have that happen again. I absolutely LOVE the MegaCab, short bed and all.

There are tons of these trucks on the road performing flawlessly. Pay attention to what you see pulling the big stuff down the road, they are primarily these CTD's. The conversion industry chose them too, that speaks loudly about what does the trick. I have had mine into the dealer for a couple of flashes related to white smoke, bad fuel mileage, and rail pressure. Once you get through the little stuff, if you have it, you will find your new truck to be just fine and ALL that you thought it would be and then some.

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When I was deciding on trans I decided it was against my religion to go with auto in a diesel p/u but if that's what you want go for it. Dont let some hotrodder on here who's torn up a bunch of stock tranny's juicing his motor disuade you from what is certainly a fine transmission if everything is left stock.

I'm a trucker by trade and I have to agree with the above comments. I see it everyday out there - Duramaxes and Powerstrokes a plenty pulling gooseneck "hotshot" freight all over everywhere but the vast majority of trucks out there pulling this kind of freight are Dodge-CTDs. I too am a diehard Ford man but there was never a question in my mind what would ultimately be my first diesel p/u. I have plenty of experience with the class 8 ISX. Very tough, reliable, efficient beasts the ISX. From everyone I ever talked to about the 5.9 its been pretty much the same as what I already knew about the ISX. And so, it's just too dämn bad they don't put CTD's in the Blue Ovals
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DiEseLjunKy
When I was deciding on trans I decided it was against my religion to go with auto in a diesel p/u but if that's what you want go for it. Dont let some hotrodder on here who's torn up a bunch of stock tranny's juicing his motor disuade you from what is certainly a fine transmission if everything is left stock.

I'm a trucker by trade and I have to agree with the above comments. I see it everyday out there - Duramaxes and Powerstrokes a plenty pulling gooseneck "hotshot" freight all over everywhere but the vast majority of trucks out there pulling this kind of freight are Dodge-CTDs. I too am a diehard Ford man but there was never a question in my mind what would ultimately be my first diesel p/u. I have plenty of experience with the class 8 ISX. Very tough, reliable, efficient beasts the ISX. From everyone I ever talked to about the 5.9 its been pretty much the same as what I already knew about the ISX. And so, it's just too dämn bad they don't put CTD's in the Blue Ovals
I have to quote you on this in my area its all fords you rarely see dodges few more durmaxes comin around. Are lots cant keep used fords on the lot and i dont know why there are excess dodges and chevys. Iv owned all three. They where all problem free top of the line trucks. I tow everyday iv got a psd and a dodge cummins going all day both are substantial, and yes you are going to here dodges are the best here and go to a ford or chevy site there are the best . We run them to 100,000 miles and dump them them. and we run them hard but youd never now it when sold they still look new. We can line the trucks up with identical loads . there is no diffrence when pulling .The reason i do not like the duramax it pull like crap truck is all over they just seem to be light somewhere but they have nice power. Our next trucks are going to be a 08 ford and a 08 cummins. I love the cummins 6xer
but the ford s ride for long travel is to my liking . All these problems post but you need to look at how many are sold 450,000 fords 325,000 cummins there got to be flaws. Its a lottery get goods ones you going to love the truck get a bad one your going to hate it
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DiEseLjunKy
I see it everyday out there - Duramaxes and Powerstrokes a plenty pulling gooseneck "hotshot" freight all over everywhere but the vast majority of trucks out there pulling this kind of freight are Dodge-CTDs.
Employee Pricing comes to mind...makes all dodges around 7k more affordable then the other brands.
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by CRIMPS
Thanks for the insight and the opinions.

SSminnow, you said that the 48RE is no more. Are you referring to the replacement of the tranny in the '07's? What is DC replacing this with?

Yep. They are going with a 6 speed auto from Aisin (sp?) I beleive.
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 08:11 AM
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Oh yeah, one more thing. Opinions will be biased on a CTD site. When I first bought my 7.3 PSD, I was going to go with the stick becasue I was transporting cars. I talked to a few guys that did it, and thay had PSD's with auto's, and I got the"Oh yeah, mine has lasted 350K miles" "Mine has 250K miles on it no problems" Yeah, yeah yeah. Call me one with bad luck then. Mine went at 38K. My landscaping friends went at 80K. And my other friends TC went at 50K. A friend of mine works at a RV dealer, and he gets paid to use his truck (05 CTD QC 2WD SB)to move Trailers around the lot and the such and his TC went at 40K. Now, my best friend with the 06 CTD auto went at 8K miles. In other words, MOST of my friend drive Diesel's, one brand or the other, and the majority have had problems with their auto.

My friend mentioned above had a 99 7.3 PSD, the one with the TC go out at 50K, now has a CTD with a 6 speed. The one above that went out at 80K now has a 6 speed PSD. And of course, I went with a 6 speed.

Now, I have 2 friends with Duramaxes, and both pull 3/4 car haulers (51' Step Deck from Take 3) and have 100K on their Allison's with no problems. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. I am just stating what I know, and that is mentioned above. All fact. Just seems odd to me that the majority, which we are not talking about just 1 truck here, but MULTIPLE cases in which an auto has failed from me witnessing first hand.

So, I will say it again. The stock auto's are junk.
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 08:36 AM
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Dumb question: The 100,000mi warrantee is a powertrain warrantee...covering the transmission...including the torque converter...right?
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CRIMPS
Dumb question: The 100,000mi warrantee is a powertrain warrantee...covering the transmission...including the torque converter...right?
Dodge and Chevy (no idea about ford) include a nice "Warranty Manual" which tells you exactly what's covered for how long and what not.
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CRIMPS
Dumb question: The 100,000mi warrantee is a powertrain warrantee...covering the transmission...including the torque converter...right?
Since you don't have the truck or owners manual yet, here goes on warranty info right out of my 2006 book:

Basic Limited Warranty: 3yr/36k miles
Anti Corrosion: All panels 3yr, outer panels 5yr/100k miles
Federal Emissions: 5yr/50k miles
Federal Emissions (specific components- cat) 8yr/80k miles
Cummins Diesel warranty 5yr/100k miles

The 5/100 warranty is not drivetrain, it is the motor only. The transmission is covered under the 3/36 not the 5/100 of the motor.
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CRIMPS
Dumb question: The 100,000mi warrantee is a powertrain warrantee...covering the transmission...including the torque converter...right?


NO such thing as a dumb question....only the one's that do NOT get asked are the dumb one's
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