Tire pressure and front and rear shocks have fixed 2 diesels and one hemi here. The front tire pressures were too low on the deisels and the hemi 1/2 ton had too much weight in the rear along with worn shocks and low tire pressures.

 

Guys lets look at this in a little more detail - I really appriciate everyone's input but I believe it is something more than the spacers themselves. I have read post that said taking the spacers out did nothing, some say it works???

I think the real problem here is something is wearing out - I have had the spacers in for 50,000 miles and I drive the exact same 100 mile round trip home everyday since the truck was brand new. This problem only started to occur 2 to 3 weeks ago. I just have a hard time believing that ALL THE SUDDEN it was the spacers fault. AGAIN - I am not saying I dont beleive anyone and I am glad that it has curred the problem sometimes, cause this is a serious issue.

The spacers are Metal and seem to be in the exact same shape they were in 50,000 miles ago.

Tire pressure in the front is set at 50 lbs, maybe that is a little much??

I have adjusted the camber AGAIN with no avail. I will definatly check the steering stabilzer this weekend.

I have also heard that I need to get the spacer kit for the front sway bar from KORE...... BUT again why would this all of the sudden be a problem. It all doesn't add up, I believe I have some part that is wore out causing this but what part could wear out at 50,000 miles and cause this, again I hate to just start changing stuff, but it looks like I might have to start.

Thanks guys

 

I had the spacers take those off get the springs form skyjacker or whoever and put dual stabilizer on here the place i got mine http://www.ntwonline.com/acb/showdet...=1348&CATID=13

and check your balljoints just had mine replaced with only 29,000 problem solved.This is how i fixed mine also if your still using stock shocks thats not going to help.

 

Got some info, but am still getting more clarification.

Anyone know "anti-rotators" are in the steering gear?

Something about worn out tie rod end stops. The stops get beaten to where the tie rod can travel too far. I've also heard a sloppy track bar can help induce it.

When it happened to me, I actually heard something go "click" before it started to shake. That was at about 70 ish accelerating onto the freeway trying to get ahead of the tractor trailer caravan. Slowed down to 50-55 and it went away.

Scary stuff.

 

I would look for worn parts in the front, specifically upper ball-joints. I checked mine two weeks ago and was amazed at the amount of play after only 50,000 miles.

 

Did check ball joints this weekend and ALL 4 have play

This truck only has 55,000 on it and all have been hwy, and these things are already wore out. What a joke, Heavy Duty Truck my butt

Wonder if those are covered under the Power Train Warranty???

 

nope 3year 36000m

 

"Tire pressure in the front is set at 50 lbs, maybe that is a little much??"

If you're towing at 75mph to 80 mph it's very low, as you're suppoed to add 10 psi if you're doing over 65mph. Look in your manual and the tire booklet that comes with the truck. If you're towing at such speeds with a lifted (?) truck that has larger than stock (?) wheels you're going to be wearing the steering/suspension out early. I recall reading that GM doesn't honor warranty if larger than stock tires are being used.

 

I am glad i have extended warranty.u-joints at 22000 and balljoints at 29000.I no the mechanics pretty good and they replaced all of them with no hassle same way with the u-joints.

 

Hi Guys,
I had someone over here call and ask if I could lend a hand with the DW issues. We recieve calls daily asking questions like, Does Kore suspension cure DW. My answer is always no! DW is an occurence that is caused by worn out front end parts, a bad tire or tires ( Most of the time a 315 BFG AT is in the mix) or a miss aligned truck. We have seen it on trucks that we do installs of suspension on. I have spent 12 hours on one truck only to put a set of good tires on and the DW goes away.
I would start by moving the steering wheel back and forth one inch while the truck is running. Have it on flat solid ground and look and listen for small movements that are there. Pay special attention to the tie rod end at the pitman arm. They are notorious for failure. Also check the play in your steering wheel. A quarter turn is too much. Tighten it up too.. A BFG 315 AT is the most common cause for DW. DO not Put them ON your TRuck! They are hexed. I was once a huge fan of BFG but no longer. There are better tires out there. Spacers also have a negitive effect on the steering but suspension is not the cause of DW. It is the unsprung weight of the front axle that will contribute to the delima causing DW. If you still have questions go ahead and post them or give me a call.
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Greg DRC

 

the spacers are not the problem, the stabilizers are not the problem

i build custom suspension systems for extreme off road use.

i get this question all the time from jeepers. death wobble is a sympathetic vibration

the stabilizers are hiding a problem. with proper caster (on my rock crawlers we are 5-7 degrees positive caster) and toe (usually slightly in) and good hardware i mean good tie rod ends, good drag link ends and good ball joints you should not even need stabilizers

i have a custom coils and long arm kit i built for my cj8 scrambler, i can drive that 80 miles an hour with no hand the wheel on any road and it doesn't have stabilizer one on it

if you have death wobble you have a problem. look at all the rod ends, starting with the tie rods, check your ball joints also. did you reset your toe when you put the leveling kit on?

improper toe can cause death wobble in a truck with worn parts. if you commute that far everyday you probably have some wear in the front.

 

I had death wobble at 1500 miles with the spacers.So the front end of the truck was wore out that soon? Thats hard to beleive.

 

Lemme ask you guys, I owned an 87 F-150 with 33's on it and the suspension had over 150,000 mi on it, and I never experianced any type of steering problem or wobble. I also owned a 98 GMC Sierra 1500 and the front end was worn from these lovely NYC roads, and again, never experianced anthing..... Now for my new Ram, truck only has 1,450 mi. on it, and I notice when I drive it, especially if Im on like a service rd. or something, going about 45mph or so, If the road has a slight bend, and some potholes, the truck seems to get a little squirrlley, and wants to move around slightly. I had to move the steering wheel a little to stay in my lane. Now, is this the death wobble that everybody is talking about, or is this something else?? I gotta say, out of all the trucks Ive owned, and some of them were old beaters with lots of miles, I never experianced any thing like that. It'll make my heart jump, especially when you have another vehicle next to you!!!

 

A bad draglink is all the shop could find wrong with mine, I had just installed new rancho shocks on the fronts. I replaced the draglink installed new skyjacker dual shocks and stablizers, and the polyuathene sway bar bushings. that was about 60,000 ago, and haven't had a problem since. Yes i have the coal spring spacers.

 

I have a the DW on the truck, first time I had it the truck had 18,000 on it. Took it to the dealership and it happened 2 weeks after I got it back. Took it back and they were confused as hell why it happened.

I put a set of 285/75R16's on the truck and it NEVER did it with those on it, but I only got 18,000 out of those tires.

I went back to the stock size of 265/75R16's and it still will do it today on those "special" bumps.

I have had the track bar tightened, and I agree, its a very scary situation to go through and I would never wish it on anyone. I just pray that when it happens the next time or the time after that people are not riding my ***, or worse an 18-wheeler is riding my ***....

I also have been trying to figure out what to do, a local suspension shop in town said that the ball joint was a little loose... but he didn't think it was that.... (I think I got that right..)

I would go back to the 285/75R16's, but they don't make that tire in a load range E and thats what the 2500 diesel's need because of their weight.