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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 09:17 AM
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Is this close enough??

http://www.genosgarage.com/prodinfo....CUTEMP_ADAPTER



Will this fitting be close enough to work? I don't believe you need instantaneous readings, as you can tell plenty quick if it's gettin' hot. If it is relatively accurate and quick responding, then it's not worth opening up the line. Being that aluminum is a great conductor, it should be fine, right?
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 12:14 PM
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I was always told that close is for horseshoes and hand grenades but if that is what you want to use then go for it. My self I think the real thing at this URL is much better and you don't have to guess what the true fluid temps are: http://www.dieselmanor.com/dm_products/DM-CLG3.asp
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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BMH95,

That seems prefectly fine to me. It will be slightly slower responding and may read slightly lower. The response time is probably no slower than the actual rise rate of the fluid. If you wrapped it with somthing to insulate it slightly, it would have less influence from the surounding temp and be completely accurate. It would be far faster responding than a pan sensor.


John
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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I have the cooler line from diesel manor and would recomend it to anyone. Super easy to install and it's a Mopar part
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 05:23 PM
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I don't want to have to touch anything until after 100K. By using this set-up, I don't have to risk any warranty issues in any way at all. I'd hate for DC to say that my temp sender caused fluid restrictions and that's why I owe them $485,849.12 for a new transmission.
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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Post turbo pyro, boost bolt fitting, and that sender mean no engine / drivetrain intrusions at all. Then I can put a pre turbo probe and a real trans temp sender after 100k.

Argue with that logic!!

HA!
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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Before Geno's began selling this item, I built a similar device from a brass fitting. I just finished a 5600 mile towing trip on my '06 from CA to FLA and back, including the Sierra's. The sensor gave readings that are consistent with everything I've read about tranny temps. Accuracy and responsiveness approaches if not matches having the sensor actually in the line and substantially exceeds that in the pan. In addition, there is no violation of cooling line integrity and risk of leaks or contamination. There is no way a dealer could alledge that installation caused any problems.
I'm more than sold on it.

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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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And now there are two of us in the camp against the Mass Diesel replacement line! I see a pyramid scheme forming now . . .


mwuhahahahahha!!

Seriously though, Danavilla, you give me a better feeling about it. It's sometimes nice to know that there really is more than one way to skin a cat - contrary to popular beliefs, that is.
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 11:57 PM
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BMH95:

When I built the external sensor attachment, I had no idea anything like it was commercially available. I got the concept from another TDR member who had fabricated one from a block of aluminum. I wrote a short article about it that was published in the TDR magazine a couple of months later.
Despite dubious comments of some others, I am absolutely convinced that it is, as I said, quite accurate and responsive. Much more so than the sender in my '98 which the shop installed in a tranny port and I later moved to the pan.

Dan

p.s. I squirted in a shot of heat sink grease before screwing the sender into the fitting to insure efficient heat transfer.
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 10:07 AM
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Where can you pick up heat sink grease? I was wondering about filling the void with a good conducting liqiud, so you already have the solution for that too. Thanks a bunch!
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 01:42 PM
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The silicone heat grease dries out and quits working. I think the fitting shown is just fine. Unless the rate of temperature change in the small hunk of aluminum is slower than the rate that several quarts of ATF can change temperature, it won't even have any noticable lag. Wrapping it in insulation wouldn't hurt, but probably won't help either. If you really want to do it up right, there are heat conductive epoxies around, but I wouldn't bother.

I say this from working on a device that uses a temp sender wrapped around a tube and reads it with 1/4 degree C accuracy.
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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I think this is a good alternative to those who don't want to use the Diesel Manor line. My only concern would be the hose clamp rubbing on the line and/or loosening over time. I might want to take a look at it every oil change or so when I was already under the truck.

Thanks for the post. Geno's has got some new stuff that I wasn't aware of. I'm surprised that we haven't had a post on the lemon scented oil additive designed to kill the smell of Rotella.
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LongRanger
I'm surprised that we haven't had a post on the lemon scented oil additive designed to kill the smell of Rotella.
Does that stuff really work? It seems to me that that stuff would just smell weird.
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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Anyone have pics of this sensor installed?
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 12:46 AM
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what is the best location to install it?
i am in
at least it will be accurrate for light towing

thanks
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