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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 12:49 AM
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Changes for '05?

I've heard there's a new 6-speed called the G56 and I've also heard there's a new lift pump too.

Folks say if the G56 is a GETRAG there'll be problems. Any comments?
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 07:11 AM
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The G56 will be available later in the '05 model year. The lift pump is located in the tank now.
I looked a several '05 Dodge Cummins at a dealer while my truck was in for a new P/S pump and hoses last Tuesday in Kerrville. The only way I can tell it's an '05 is the Ram Head badge below the tailgate handle.

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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 08:14 AM
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Why would they put the lift pump in the tank? Do they expect a longer lifetime out of the new ones?
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 09:15 AM
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crobtex,

I guess it's better to push the fuel from the tank rather than pulling it from the engine. To me it's a mixed blessing cause it's easier to change the front pump rather than dropping the tank, etc. Fuel in the tank does help cool the pump. My .0.

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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 02:58 PM
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They are also adding a sun roof, and 7 speaker Infinity sound system, as options of course.
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 05:19 PM
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They are also adding a sun roof, and 7 speaker Infinity sound system, as options of course.
Yes, the Sun Roof is now an option, however the 7 speaker infinity stereo was available in 03 because I've got one
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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In 03 it was a 6 speaker system, I had it in the 99 and now the 04.5.
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 11:42 PM
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I also heard DC bumped the horsepower to 610. Any ideas on how that came about?

Sounds like replacing a troublesome fuel pump which seems to be a common problem is gonna get more expensive.
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 11:45 PM
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Originally posted by gogriz91
I also heard DC bumped the horsepower to 610. Any ideas on how that came about?

Sounds like replacing a troublesome fuel pump which seems to be a common problem is gonna get more expensive.
I think you mean torque.......

We still have pump problems on the 3rd gens??
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 06:35 AM
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Originally posted by Thirsty600
I think you mean torque.......

We still have pump problems on the 3rd gens??
Yep, I meant torque.

I've read about lift pump, not fuel pump problems. I'd heard there was a new lift pump in the '05's.

Just trying to dispel the rumor with fact.
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 08:08 AM
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GM gassers have in tank pumps. They seem to hold up well over 100,000 miles consistantly. Be nice if they just used an engine driven fuel pump.
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 02:24 PM
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Dodge gassers are in tank as well, Filter and all. Mine held up to 200k on a 360 gasser. Of course my fuel system is holding up on the 99 diesel too
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 03:19 PM
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I've read that pushing the fuel is easier on the pump than pulling it with an electric pump. I had a F250 with the pumps in the tanks and with 140,000 miles they are still working (my son bought the truck). I was over on the Cummins site last night and they say you should have a filter before the lift pump on the "B" engines. If the pump is in the tank then it will have one.
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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If a fuel pump is properly engineered it should provide a good service life whether it is pushing, pulling, in the tank, out of the tank, or whatever. Of course the key phrase here is 'properly engineered'...
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 05:09 PM
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There's one more thing I forgot to mention about the '05s. The aftercooler is different compared to the '03-04 models. I swear it looks like the end caps are made of plastic.

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