I don’t know what is required in MT regarding smog but as you know we don’t smog our CTD therefore smog sticker is not required. In addition, there is no CARB number is not required on the engine label as long as it says something to the affect of “complied with California regulations”. Go to your CTD and look at the label on the left side of the valve cover there should be a long white sticker wit a big Chrysler and Cummins emblem. Under “Important Engine Information” at the bottom on the sticker, is there a statement “complied with California regulations”? If so then it is CARB certified. Also, look at your window sticker. If it has “California Emissions” under Optional Equipment then it is a CARB truck. There would have been no way for a DMV person to know that a certain out of state truck is CARB compliant without verifying the engine label. So for DMV that person to assure you that your truck that is in MT that this person has never seen was irresponsible. All these is a moot point if you had over 7,500 miles anyway. Non resident or not everyone must comply with the 7,500 mile rule. It is not true that all vehicles sold in states adjacent to CA are CARB certified. It is just pure economics and smart business move for dealers to order CARB vehicles as lots of CA folks go to adjacent states to get a better deal (like I did). My truck as actually sold by DC to a dealer in WA and was ship to Portland where I bought it.

Bigiron,
Where are you in the Bay specifically located? Maybe I can swing by and we can chat about our trucks. Might be going to Pier 39 next month. If you ever pass by Sacramento on your way to Tahoe or Reno, stop by.

 

My understanding was everything '04 or '04.5 and newer were 50 State compliant, and thus CARB compliant and didn't require a sticker. Also, there was only one engine at that point, the HO.

 

That's right!

 

"Negative Ghost Rider The Pattern Is Full". Tru there is no difference of a Fed and CARB trucks. It is all about 100% testing before it leaves the factory for CARB trucks. It must have a statement on the engine label stating it complies with CA emission. Go look at your label and see if it says something like “complies wit CA emission”. If it has this statement then it is CARB if not then it is Federal.

I’ve attached the window sticker on my truck that clearly says “California Emissions”. I’ve also attached a sample from the CA DMV web site for a CARB and Fed Toyota vehicle. Why is this so hard for folks to understand? Hey I did not make the rules; I am just forced to obey it.

 

bought mine in utah and cali said it will transfer just fine im still a resident there so had to make sure i did not have any bs, like back in the day u had a huge fine to bring in an out of state car or truck under gray davis. there is no diff i them and im good just have to pay the registration fee that everyone eles pays no tax or anything like just pay for the plate and tags thats it

 

Sorry, when I said "smog sticker" I was really referring to the label on the driver's side of the valve cover. Montana has no special smog stickers (and no sales tax either, God bless them). On the right hand side of my valve cover label are three columns labeled FEL, EPA, and CARB. Under FEL and EPA are two boxes each filled with numbers. Under CARB the two boxes are empty. I haven't looked at any Native CA trucks to see if mine differs, but my guess is that there are numbers in the boxes of CA sold trucks. The fact that the two boxes under CARB were empty is why I spent so much effort to confirm that the truck was CA smog legal. Now, here is my theory/explanation why there is no problem with registering these trucks in CA: The Dodge/Cummins is the same truck whether it is sold in New York, Montana, or California. More important, it is sold under the same part numbers wherever it is sold. The trucks tested and approved by CARB and sold in CA carry the same part numbers as the trucks sold in other states. So in actuality they have been tested and approved by CARB. This would explain why I had no trouble at all registering my MT truck in CA.

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Well, I live in Mount Shasta California. I've bought three Dodge Ram's with Cummins in Oregon. A 2000, a 2004, and a 2007. Never had a problem at DMV getting registration once I got home, except my wallet kinda felt abused paying the tax.

 

RichM752,

Beautiful country up there. I drove through there when I picked up my truck from Portland. Actually my truck was a dealer trade from WA so it was shipped from WA to Portland where I picked it up. Although it was a WA truck, as you can see on my window sticker on post #19 above, it has CA emission. I suspect all three of your trucks were CARB compliant.

Bigiron,

Good explanation…sounds good to me.

 

DMV keeps a list of vehicles that are CARB compliant, and it is crossreferenced by VIN as well... (keeps folks from trying to "sticker" an otherwise non-compliant vehicle) if it does not all pan out, then off to a referee station they go... If a certain vehicle is 50 state compliant already (like the 04.5 and up) then there is less worry about it. 03-04 trucks (like mine) were detuned to 235hp and a cat added to make it CARB compliant.

Signed your local neighborhood CA DMV employee....

 

I special ordered my '07 from Dave Smith in Wa. The Cali CARB trucks don't cost them a dime more,so DSM orders the majority of their trucks with that designation. Mine flew through the DMV with a Ca weight sticker($10.00)courtesy of Mayflower's public scale,and all of the DSM supplied paperwork which was complete. The DMV clerk scrutinized the paperwork with a microscope but sent it through. She said she sees lot's of DSM imported vehicles come through. If you're military or the vehicle had 7500 miles at time of sale,bring it on in and don't forget your wallet.

 

That is exactly what I’ve been saying this whole time. If it is a new truck that was never registered before, it has to be CARB compliant. If it is used and was registered once from another state then it has to have over 7,500 miles. Even active duty military as I am, we still have to follow the CARB rule for new vehicles. I just can’t buy a new non CARB vehicle from out of state and bring it to CA to register. However, I can register it at my home state if I’m not a CA resident and drive at my duty station in CA. I bought my CARB compliant 06 CTD brand new and was originally sold/shipped by DC to a dealer in WA. I did not have any issues registering out of state truck since it had documentation that it is CARB compliant.