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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 09:43 AM
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2500 vs 3500

Talked to Dealers at a show on Sat but they don't know crap!! I built one of each on line 2010's because there is no 2011 info on the dodge site or kelley blue book yet?? Bottom line there was only $635 dif in the 2. The only thing I see is limited slip is an option on the 2500 but must be standard on the 3500 because I did not see it anywhere and the Cummins was standard on the 3500 also. What else is dif on the 2 trucks?? Why do almost all get the 2500's?? Also some of you have said you got over 10K of sticker but there is only 5K off sticker to invoice and 2K cash allowance I think right now. What should I pay if the sticker is $55,160 ?? They did not even have 2011 info at the show!! They gave me a 2010 book Said they did not get any 2011 stuff yet!!! Whats up with that??
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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I ordered a 2011 3500 SRW I think the only other differences are the rear spring size and the 3500's do not have the TPMS system and the 2500's do! Mine stickered for 55k+ and got it for 48K but you should be able to get a better price on a 2010.
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 12:31 PM
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I don't want a 2010, I want to order it the way I want it. Why is it the dealers seem to know nothing about trucks??When I bought my last one I had a salesman ask me what I needed a Diesel for, and he was not just asking to learn my needs he just did not get it or care. It went like this .. What do you need that for... ME: Thats what I want.... Him: WHY??.... ME: I go somewhere else sorry to bother ya
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 01:21 PM
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Dealers know nothing becuase they are dealers!

2011's are on the site for me??

Anyways the difference in the 2 is the rear leaf springs, and thats pretty much it. Some of the front springs are different but they are all rated at the same FAWR. As its been stated there is no TPMS on a 3500.

The 3500 has a 3/1 leaf pack rated 7% stiffer than the 2500 4/1 leaf pack.
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 01:22 PM
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If you are paying cash then make your offer sticker minus 20%. Thats what we can deal here in Canada and unfortunately, your ecoomy is probably worse than ours so it is a buyers market. I would take the 3500 over the 2500 as the differences are mostly in the suspension, brakes and chassis and the 3500 is much heavier. The cost difference up here is about $2000 more for the 3500. Good value IMO
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 01:33 PM
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I have a 2010 3500 SRW...this thing CAN'T have any more springs than a 2500...it's SAD when I hook up the trailer.


But other than that, the TPMS should be the only difference....get the 3500, the tire sensors SUCK!

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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DodgeChallenger
If you are paying cash then make your offer sticker minus 20%. Thats what we can deal here in Canada and unfortunately, your ecoomy is probably worse than ours so it is a buyers market. I would take the 3500 over the 2500 as the differences are mostly in the suspension, brakes and chassis and the 3500 is much heavier. The cost difference up here is about $2000 more for the 3500. Good value IMO
Brakes and suspension are the same on the 2500 and 3500...so is the chassis...


At least EVERY one I've compared to is the same!
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 01:43 PM
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If you are paying cash then make your offer sticker minus 20%. Thats what we can deal here in Canada and unfortunately, your ecoomy is probably worse than ours so it is a buyers market. I would take the 3500 over the 2500 as the differences are mostly in the suspension, brakes and chassis and the 3500 is much heavier. The cost difference up here is about $2000 more for the 3500. Good value IMO
I know several folks that have bought 3500 SRW's vs 2500's with the same options since the 3500 was cheaper.

3rd and 4th gens use the same frame, brakes, and base suspension (except springs) from a 2500 hemi thru a 3500 DRW, so that's the same.

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I have a 2010 3500 SRW...this thing CAN'T have any more springs than a 2500...it's SAD when I hook up the trailer.
They are.. go take a look under the 2500 vs 3500. 4/1 on the 2500 and 3/1 on all 3500's, DRW's get the 3/1 plus a 2 pack overload.

In 3rd gens they used the same main spring pack on 2500/3500 SRW's and the 3500 SRW's got a set of overloads. IMO they stopped using the overloads as you are just about at RAWR before they even came into contact, pretty useless.
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 01:58 PM
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Well then the 2500 would flat out be sick towing...mine is riding on the bumps anytime I load the trailer.

From the way it is, I might need the DRW overload pack AND airbags!

Chris
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 02:03 PM
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How heavy is your trailer?

I am not even to the overloads on my 3500 SRW with a 5200lb RAW, which is 1500lbs extra on the rear axle. At this weight it only takes 25psi in the airbags to maintain a level stance.

Even with over 3K lbs in the bed I wasn't near the bumps, thou I was touching the overloads then.
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 03:45 PM
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My brother has a 3500 and I have a 2500 - both CTD 4x4's. He says next time he's getting the 2500, as the 3500 rides rougher empty (due to the heavier rated rear springs) which is how they often are used...
Otherwise, they're essentially the same as noted above. (except TPMS)
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 03:51 PM
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Well then the 2500 would flat out be sick towing...mine is riding on the bumps anytime I load the trailer.

From the way it is, I might need the DRW overload pack AND airbags!

Chris
Chris, either your trailer has much more tongue weight than you realize (go have it weighed at a truck scale), or your truck was badged as a 3500 when it was a 2500...which altho isn't likely, it's not totally impossible. I was looking at a Challenger SRT8 at a dealer that was incorrectly badged as an R/T, and even the Monroni header said it was an R/T. They do make mistakes now and then, altho other paperwork should show 3500...Check the spring count to be sure.
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 04:20 PM
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I do realize we are heavy...35' 12 ton trailer that when loaded average puts us over 35K GVW....yeah, yeah, we're heavy, we know!


What annoys me is my Brother's 09 3500 SRW Chevy never goes past level, and the Uncle's 10 3500 SRW Ford is the same. This Dodge is great other than the springs are sick!

I'll be checking spring counts...and I will be very upset if I got 2500 springs!
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 04:31 PM
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I don't think I have ever heard of chevies having stiffer springs than a Dodge??

Is that trailer a GN or Bumper? Either way it sounds like you are far exceeding the tire/wheel capabilites.
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 04:59 PM
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GN...no, I'm not exceeding axle or tire weights...don't know about wheel, but hopefully it can handle what the tire can! I have scaled it...I'm under 6K on the rear, under the 3195lbs (I think) rating for the rear tires.

It amazed us too, but that Chevy has some stout freaking springs under it...and rides pretty good too!

Chris
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