Yea to me a 1st generation Ram is 1981-1993.

87's and 89's are exactly the same, so 89-93 is not a seperate generation UNLESS it's diesel.

 

Wow, all this confusion over this one, simple statement.

Ever since I've been into these trucks, the term "1stgen" in relation to a Dodge truck has meant the 1989-1993 CUMMINS TURBO DIESEL POWERED Dodge pick-ups.

Now I'm supposed to change my view of when the "1stgen" was originated, because some people want to get TECHNICAL over the BODY re-style?
Ain't happening here.

I was in High School just before these trucks were marketed, when you could hear the "noise" and innuendo that there was a Dodge Diesel pick-up in the works.
This was back when the '81-'87s came out and NOBODY ever referred to them as "1stgen", or even "any gen", they were just "Ram" or "Dodge Pickup (by model).
Calling them "1stgen" didn't happen until around 1995, after the "New Ram" restyle, which was the FIRST time I ever recall hearing "1stgen" mentioned.

In this case, the term "1stgen" refers to the diesel version of the trucks, not just the body styling.
Any other reference to generations and a Dodge truck is purely DIESEL related.

Oh yeah, if you REALLY want to be technical, for pick-ups and diesels, the, TRUE "1st Gen" is the 1978-1980 Dodge trucks with the slug 6 cylinder (Mitsubishi?) diesel.

That one stinks, don't it?

Mark.

 

In this forums sub titles please read (1st Gen. Ram-All Topics) where is the word diesel or Cummins.

https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...1989-f113.html

 

So,

it's not the engine that signifies the generation of the truck, but the truck itself.

That's what I thought.... Glad I was right

Thanks Bob.

 

Nope, you're not, just not properly informed.

It was ALL about the engine from the beginning.
If it weren't, we'd be calling Dodge trucks something like 15th and 16th gens, not 1st through 4th.

Funny how until '94 or '95, there were no generational designations for the Dodge trucks, yet now people want to call anything pre-1989 a "1stgen", just because it LOOKS like it.

This couldn't be further from the truth.

The proper term would be, for '89-'93, the first gen DIESEL ERA body style.
For it to be a proper 1stgen, it would have to have a Cummins and be VIN-ed as a Cummins Powered truck.

Anything else is just a gas powered '81-'93 Dodge Pick-up.

Mark.

 

So all the crew cab conversions were gassers are not 1st Gens, after all they were not built in the the years 89-93

Im glad i dont listen to dictators.

 

You are Correct Dodge never made a crewcab diesel or a longbed 4x4 crewcab but We have

 

You are right, the 1972-1985 Dodge Crews are ALWAYS Diesel CONVERSIONS and as such are not revered as a "1stGen".
If you want a "true" diesel-equipped crew cab of that era, buy a Ford or a Chevy.

It's not dictating, it's living with the FACTS.

Mark.

 

Apparently Mark Dixon and I agree but no one else does.........I'm curious as to how many were "into" trucks during the late '80's early '90's when these terms were originated.....Heaven forbid I disagree with wikipedia.
Which by the way didn't exist when the first 1st Gen Truck was made......

However I will defer to "current" wisdom and everyone can call their truck what they want.

But to me a "1st Gen" is a DODGE "CUMMINS" P/U, made from 1989-1993. Everything else is whatever............

Interesting thread.

Billy

 

I knew I'd get a rise out of you coconuts....



You're just too easy, Mark



T.

 

Dixon!

Mark.

 

No "rise" here, just stating facts, some can't handle them.
If that makes me "easy", then so be it.

Mark.

 

The real dodge truck first gen is this one...

http://www.shorpy.com/node/10106

What's ya think President Nixon Dixon ?

 

I think I'd own one if I could find one.
Better yet, make mine a PLYMOUTH!
Laugh at the name all you want, it won't get you anywhere.

Mark.

 

Well Mark, you shouldn't be you should be !!!

I'm not laughing @ you.... as you were the one who posted this:
I saw the thread was fading out, and you were the first to chime in...

When I first heard the term "first gen" it perplexed me, as to the fact that dodge trucks have been around for decades before the 81-93 body style. No one calls the 1959 dodge D series a "first gen" and that's because it really isn't. If that was indeed the case, the dodge model 30 that evolved into their pickup would be considered the "first gen"... No ???

After reviewing the phenomenon of categorizing these dodge trucks into separate groups or "generations" , it was clear ( IMO ) that they meant diesel pickups with our friend the cummins in them.... I guess if Ram stops selling the cummins, then the generation thing will most likely die.

It's semantics. Don't call my truck a "survivor" otherwise, the corvette enthusiasts will burn your house down !!!