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93-p-pumper 08-19-2012 09:42 PM

new here with a big question/project.
 
Hey guys I own a 93 5 speed 4wd reg cab with a 6" lift and so on. it has a good amount of mods but has a cracked block. Anyway I can buy a 95 P-pump cheaper then a VE. So for my question is what would be involved in swapping a p-pump into my truck?

dodgenstein 08-19-2012 09:51 PM

In order to get all the pieces as cheaply as possible, most recommend that you buy a complete running motor from a 2nd gen truck.

93-p-pumper 08-19-2012 09:52 PM

That's the plan as stated the block in my truck now is cracked. so I gotta replace it.

patdaly 08-20-2012 08:29 AM

Easy cheesy, especially if you use a manual fuel shutoff. You would have to replicate the 2 circuit fuel wiring if you want to keep the electric solenoid of the P Pumper.

I would use the shorter 89-93 belt drive and accessories, and of course use the bellhousing adapter, flywheel and starter off your 93.

rebal 08-20-2012 08:55 AM

east bolt in just need to wire the FS and swap out a few parts off the 93 ,fuel filter/motor mounts ,, and if it was me put a new oil pan gasket and front/ rear main seals . and fix any leaks while it is out.

93-p-pumper 08-20-2012 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by patdaly (Post 3126779)
Easy cheesy, especially if you use a manual fuel shutoff. You would have to replicate the 2 circuit fuel wiring if you want to keep the electric solenoid of the P Pumper.

I would use the shorter 89-93 belt drive and accessories, and of course use the bellhousing adapter, flywheel and starter off your 93.

Yeah i plan to use the fss on it. whats the difference in the front accesories aside from the fan bracket is a lil different right?

93-p-pumper 08-20-2012 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by rebal (Post 3126783)
east bolt in just need to wire the FS and swap out a few parts off the 93 ,fuel filter/motor mounts ,, and if it was me put a new oil pan gasket and front/ rear main seals . and fix any leaks while it is out.

The fuel filter off the 93 won't fit with the P-pump. but she will have a brand new filter installed for sure. Ive been thinking about that gasket and front rear seals. could I keep the 2nd gen 2wd oil pan?

dieselJon 08-20-2012 04:55 PM

Should be able to.

I would also upgrade the fuel lines to either 3/8" or even better 1/2". The stock 5/16's line is tiny.

patdaly 08-20-2012 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by 93-p-pumper (Post 3126840)
Yeah i plan to use the fss on it. whats the difference in the front accesories aside from the fan bracket is a lil different right?

Supposedly the whole setup is shorter to fit the shorter 1st gen body. I am pretty sure you can get the 2nd gen in, but it would be tight, plus you would have to remember you have 2nd gen stuff.

93-p-pumper 08-20-2012 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by dieselJon (Post 3126885)
Should be able to.

I would also upgrade the fuel lines to either 3/8" or even better 1/2". The stock 5/16's line is tiny.

That's for a future date but in the plan book for sure. I'm looking for a conservative 300-350 hp tops. So I'm not going over the top I just can get the p-pumper cheaper, it'll be cooler and will be a more reliable pump as I hear they last longer.

93-p-pumper 08-20-2012 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by patdaly (Post 3126886)
Supposedly the whole setup is shorter to fit the shorter 1st gen body. I am pretty sure you can get the 2nd gen in, but it would be tight, plus you would have to remember you have 2nd gen stuff.

Really it all looks identical to my dads 96 except the fan hub is different, I know the blades and clutch are the same pn's as on my 93 now.

I wanna try n keep the motor all 95 and the truck 93 instead of putting some 93 parts on the 95 and keeping other parts 95 specific.

patdaly 08-21-2012 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by 93-p-pumper (Post 3127010)
Really it all looks identical to my dads 96 except the fan hub is different, I know the blades and clutch are the same pn's as on my 93 now.

I wanna try n keep the motor all 95 and the truck 93 instead of putting some 93 parts on the 95 and keeping other parts 95 specific.

When you get it, measure the distance from the belt back to the front block surface and that will get you the answer. I would like to know the answer if you do, because I an only going from what those supposedly more knowledgeable than I say.

Yea, if you could keep the 2nd gen front it would be nice. The bellhousing adapter and starter will be a requirement to keep unless you swap a NV4500 at the same time though.

93-p-pumper 08-21-2012 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by poloaa005 (Post 3127025)
Quoted text removed as I'm a Spammer and have been caught.

I'm a lil confused here?

93-p-pumper 08-21-2012 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by patdaly (Post 3127070)
When you get it, measure the distance from the belt back to the front block surface and that will get you the answer. I would like to know the answer if you do, because I an only going from what those supposedly more knowledgeable than I say.

Yea, if you could keep the 2nd gen front it would be nice. The bellhousing adapter and starter will be a requirement to keep unless you swap a NV4500 at the same time though.


I just measured my 93 against dads 96 and they are the exact same distance out so I'm all good there. At this time I'ma set the adapter plate and starter aside for a future date of installing a nv4500.

patdaly 08-22-2012 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by 93-p-pumper (Post 3127255)
I just measured my 93 against dads 96 and they are the exact same distance out so I'm all good there. At this time I'ma set the adapter plate and starter aside for a future date of installing a nv4500.

Thanks for measuring, so the Fan assy is the only thing shorter?

Good call on the adapter plate, flywheel and starter.


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