HE351VE vs ......S300 62/71/12
If I have not said this already.............
Anyone considering a 62/71/14 should have 400+ hp to the wheels or it will be hard to daily drive.
IMO the "ultimate" 1st gen turbo would be a 62/65/14; it will suite 95% of 1st genners out there more so than the 71 series turbos.
Once you get over 425+ hp you will probably need a 71 series.
Head; the other thing to consider is your elevation. What spools great for somebody in the midwest may not here in the mountain states.
Sounds like you are having some nice weather there today as we are here, or was that yesterday?
Anyone considering a 62/71/14 should have 400+ hp to the wheels or it will be hard to daily drive.
IMO the "ultimate" 1st gen turbo would be a 62/65/14; it will suite 95% of 1st genners out there more so than the 71 series turbos.
Once you get over 425+ hp you will probably need a 71 series.
Head; the other thing to consider is your elevation. What spools great for somebody in the midwest may not here in the mountain states.
Sounds like you are having some nice weather there today as we are here, or was that yesterday?
Thanks for the input. Who sells the 62/65/14 S300? I was thinking of going with the 12 cm turbine housing so I don't lose too much spool up, I dunno.
I'm probably going to stick with the 351. It takes quite a lot of effort to get it to go past 30 psi anyways. It never goes past 25 psi 99% of the time with the way I drive my truck.
Weather is still poor here. It feels like December already.
I'm probably going to stick with the 351. It takes quite a lot of effort to get it to go past 30 psi anyways. It never goes past 25 psi 99% of the time with the way I drive my truck.
Weather is still poor here. It feels like December already.
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HTT sells them. and a 62/65/12 is an HTB2. They're like $1500
Industrial injection sells every kind of turbo combo ever.. and seems to have the best prices. PDR doesn't even list the turbine size on their "custom" 62mm turbos...
Yea i say to keep the HE351, Put the P/s intercooler in (big diff.), And maybe an exhaust manifold upgrade
Industrial injection sells every kind of turbo combo ever.. and seems to have the best prices. PDR doesn't even list the turbine size on their "custom" 62mm turbos...
Yea i say to keep the HE351, Put the P/s intercooler in (big diff.), And maybe an exhaust manifold upgrade
What # exhaust springs are you running?
The Head: Do you have the vgt set up to modulate the vanes at all, or are you running in a set position? There are a few 12v guys on compd using a standard wastegate controller referenced to drive pressure to open the vanes up and are absolutely loving it. This is what I plan to do over the winter. Shoot, 60mm compressor wheel, variable exhaust housing from like 3.5cm to 26cm and an exhaust brake, and I can get one on ebay for 90 bucks?! I'm in!
The Head: Do you have the vgt set up to modulate the vanes at all, or are you running in a set position? There are a few 12v guys on compd using a standard wastegate controller referenced to drive pressure to open the vanes up and are absolutely loving it. This is what I plan to do over the winter. Shoot, 60mm compressor wheel, variable exhaust housing from like 3.5cm to 26cm and an exhaust brake, and I can get one on ebay for 90 bucks?! I'm in!
I'm using the normal HE351, not the VGT 351.
I do have a VGT 351 sitting in my basement doing nothing though. Maybe when they get their control method down pat, I will get it out of it's box.
I can hit 39 psi now if I really mash it. I don't know what kind of DP that is for us... maybe 53 psi I guess? At what point do we need to get worried about it?
Anyways, I'm going to stick with the 351 for now. My truck runs pretty good. I'm going to get it repainted instead.
I can hit 39 psi now if I really mash it. I don't know what kind of DP that is for us... maybe 53 psi I guess? At what point do we need to get worried about it?
Anyways, I'm going to stick with the 351 for now. My truck runs pretty good. I'm going to get it repainted instead.
Anyways, I'm going to stick with the 351 for now. My truck runs pretty good. I'm going to get it repainted instead.
If I have not said this already.............
Anyone considering a 62/71/14 should have 400+ hp to the wheels or it will be hard to daily drive.
IMO the "ultimate" 1st gen turbo would be a 62/65/14; it will suite 95% of 1st genners out there more so than the 71 series turbos.
Once you get over 425+ hp you will probably need a 71 series.
Head; the other thing to consider is your elevation. What spools great for somebody in the midwest may not here in the mountain states.
Sounds like you are having some nice weather there today as we are here, or was that yesterday?
Anyone considering a 62/71/14 should have 400+ hp to the wheels or it will be hard to daily drive.
IMO the "ultimate" 1st gen turbo would be a 62/65/14; it will suite 95% of 1st genners out there more so than the 71 series turbos.
Once you get over 425+ hp you will probably need a 71 series.
Head; the other thing to consider is your elevation. What spools great for somebody in the midwest may not here in the mountain states.
Sounds like you are having some nice weather there today as we are here, or was that yesterday?
The 62/65/12 or 14 and the 62/71/14 are both S300 based turbos but, as mentioned above the S300G is smaller yet.
A 62/65 series will spool slower than an HX-35; a 62/71 series will spool about 100-200 rpm slower than the 62/65. If you don't have enough fuel when using a 62/71 series (or any turbo that is a tad too big), it could make less power than the 62/65 and everday driveability will suffer.
A 62/65 series will spool slower than an HX-35; a 62/71 series will spool about 100-200 rpm slower than the 62/65. If you don't have enough fuel when using a 62/71 series (or any turbo that is a tad too big), it could make less power than the 62/65 and everday driveability will suffer.
The 62/65/12 or 14 and the 62/71/14 are both S300 based turbos but, as mentioned above the S300G is smaller yet.
A 62/65 series will spool slower than an HX-35; a 62/71 series will spool about 100-200 rpm slower than the 62/65. If you don't have enough fuel when using a 62/71 series (or any turbo that is a tad too big), it could make less power than the 62/65 and everday driveability will suffer.
A 62/65 series will spool slower than an HX-35; a 62/71 series will spool about 100-200 rpm slower than the 62/65. If you don't have enough fuel when using a 62/71 series (or any turbo that is a tad too big), it could make less power than the 62/65 and everday driveability will suffer.




