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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 08:21 AM
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That is the same bag setup as my truck has, the early single bag kelderman. I think it works real well, empty or loaded. i run about 10 psi emtpy and it rides pretty good actually. I actually just took of the front bags, came with the truck when my dad bought it almost 8 years ago, they look like the new kelderman setup for the rear of our trucks, 2 bags. I will get my girl to help post pics tonight.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 10:34 PM
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i m not sure how well you guys can see these pics, i have since taken the system off the truck, it hangs way to low for my taste, more of a highway hauler set up.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 11:30 PM
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I have Kelderman on all four corners.


The fronts took the bottom 4 leafs and flipped them upside down. Then they add the bags attached to tanks in the front. (dont have a clue why they would want a pressure tank on bags in the front)

The rears are DUAL bag setup. It also has the leveling sensor to adjust ride height. It gets rid of the rear spring hangars.

I wouldn't trade the ride for a 94-07 truck. Its VERY WELL WORTH the money.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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I agree!

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on pic #3... am i seeing a travel stop/limit linkage? I bought my setup used - had not seen that part of the system.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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Definitely a travel limiter...but that setup looks quite a bit defferent than the Kelderman front. I'm going to try and fab my own front brackets, buy the bags locally and use limiting straps for safety.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 11:56 PM
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My Kelderman front doesn't touch the stock spring hangars. They flip bottom four springs and put bag between top of spring and frame.

I'll attempt to take pics sometime.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 08:15 AM
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i think they are limiting straps of some design, the pics show the bags nearly flat, when filled all the way up the spring nearly rests on those hangers or staps. the unit is off the truck now, i will try and get a better pic of the entire unit up this evening
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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u. s mma,
A real close pic with measurements would enable me to duplicate them - or you could make it easier and post them for sale in the classifieds,
There has been discussion of limiting straps - those brackets look like they could be the real thing.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 12:04 AM
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you want measurements of the straps? or of the entire bag system? i will do it tommorow after work with pic's, all the brackets are made of is flat stock, very easy to duplicate.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 08:26 AM
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I'm mostly concerned with the travel limit straps for the rear end. I already have the complete system (which I picked up used) installed, only lacking the travel limit on the rear - and that would only be a problem if someone (tow truck, etc.) tried to pick up the back end. As long as I keep all four feet on the ground it isn't a problem.

"all the brackets are made of is flat stock, very easy to duplicate."
The pictures we have seen so far would confirm that.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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Air bags are neat and I thought of doing the same thing until I read in the FSM that Dodge recommends air shocks on the front when using a snow plow. That would eliminate the clearance problem associated with the bag and you can hook them up the same for automatic height control. Gabriel offered to make them up for me but I added another leaf instead because it was cheaper.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 11:06 PM
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Air bags

I operate an air ride dump truck. One problem you most probably will encounter is when you change the load even with auto adjusters the air bags have a delay while filling or emptying as the load changes, on most trucks it is not a problem but I suspect it would be a problem as you adjusted the plow blade. Just my two cents worth.

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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Boatnik
Air bags are neat and I thought of doing the same thing until I read in the FSM that Dodge recommends air shocks on the front when using a snow plow. That would eliminate the clearance problem associated with the bag and you can hook them up the same for automatic height control. Gabriel offered to make them up for me but I added another leaf instead because it was cheaper.
Dodge's recommendation is old. Probably before air bags were as mainstream as they are now. Air shocks aren't a good fix for anything really. The bags would be much better.

-Steve
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by KartRacer
Dodge's recommendation is old. Probably before air bags were as mainstream as they are now. Air shocks aren't a good fix for anything really. The bags would be much better.

-Steve
I'd briefly considered air shocks up front but figured that that was placing too much stress on the shock mounts? Thats interesting that Dodge actually recommended it. I'd still rather have a bag to help with the weight of the Cummins (no worry about the changing plow dynamics here).

Wish we had a metal fabricator here that would weld up a bunch of mounts for the front if we got anough together for a group buy.
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by KartRacer
Dodge's recommendation is old. Probably before air bags were as mainstream as they are now. Air shocks aren't a good fix for anything really. The bags would be much better.

-Steve
Yep, it came straight from the FSM. It was printed in 1993.
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