Flame thrower exhaust.
 

After talking to the diesel mechanic today, i am un-able to think of a different name for this.

Tell me what you think about this idea.(won't actually try this)
Propane injection just before the turbo.
The theory seems to be good. (Like the NOS effect on cars, but for diesels) Increasing heat before the turbo to make it spool faster and create more boost and launch you forward like a rocket.
Negative effects might be a burnt turbo, too much boost and could have explosive results.
Cool side effect could be a flame shooting from your exhaust.

I assume this would be for drag race purposes only. Unable to find anything on this.

He also showed me a smoked turbo out of an international 454 after one of the drivers turned up the injection pump(wish i had pictures), this thing was melted. It also needed new pistons, sleeves and bearings. I drove the truck back to the yard and it felt better than new.[coffee]

Video your results and let us know how that works out.

yeah sounds like a 100 horsepower sticker. go for it i want to see some destruction. just dont try it on a cummins it would be a waste try it on some other diesel

Yea....Don't do it....QUOTE from my early USMC training days. When the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend....

Just let me reiterate this....im not actually going to do this.

What are you trying to accomplish here? Faster spool or flames out of the pipe? Or sending the compressor wheel to the moon?

i honestly don't know, im just curious as to what may or may not happen. This will not be done on anything i own.

Well, I know this guy that has sprayed nitrous down his intake a couple of times on the dyno... nothing bad happened. The same effect would happen if I, er, HE... would have had it plumbed in the normal way.

I'm out...[eyecrazy]

Yea Brother. You've got alot of room for dishing it out...[duhhh]

I'm not dishing it out... I'm trying to figure out what he wants so he can tear it up the right way...

Ok now im going to have to find a **** truck from work to do this on.... i'll mill around the yard tomorrow and see what i can or what i can't find really. How about a 7.3 or 6.5? are their turbos/exhaust manifolds easy to get to? I think you would just want a momentairy blast and set a hobbs switch, normally closed to open at 40lbs or what ever you feel your limit to be, this would then eliminate turbo lag and let you rock and roll. Does that sound good? They have a few "junk trucks" i could probably hook a system up to using a bottle, regulator, solenoid, hobbs switch and some sort of delivery system to turbo.

Nah, you don't want to deliver it to the turbo, you want it pre intercooler, or post turbo on a non IC truck. The exhaust gasses coming out of the motor are what make the turbo spool faster, not what is going into it. (kinda)

I do not know what kind of reaction that propane will have, tho. I don't fool with that at all, so I am not sure what to tell you. I personally would not spray propane into a truck. Not even a ford...

this is sorta what i had in mind... for the flame thrower idea... kinda would need a spray jet or injector so it would mist and exhaust gases would ignite it.
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you never know it might be the next big thing some has to try stuff to see if it works or we wont have any thing to do. just like doin twins some one had a lot of time invested to get them to work.

it has to go pre turbo if your doing it on the intake side of the motor. Other wise under boost you would be pushing the propane back to the regulator with all the boost your making, unless you get a boost regulated regulator which costs extra money. Im not going for that. This is just an idea im curious about. Although if i get the ok from one of 3 people at work tomorrow i'll try it on a junk turck just for fun.

This is a post motor propane injection so the hot exhaust gasses ignight the propane creating 1300* or so of temperature before the turbo making it spool faster than 400 or even 600* you might normally see right off idle.(i know numbers aren't exacy or maybe not even close)

someone sees the light, and curiosity which got us all where we are today. Every one i know always says nick you can't do that, thats impossible. Well most of the time i prove them wrong. Guy i share a garage with gets annoying with that, everything i do which isn't an exact bolt on or part change he says is impossible and watches me do it anyways.

(mini honda alternator on my torino)

one more thought i had, overcoming the exhaust gas pressures... depending on how high they are, means it would have to be a high pressure system.... right?

Ok, I guess I'm not thinking propane pressures.

I would not inject it right at the down pipe, I'd go a little further back... Actually, I'd go almost all the way back, and wire in a spark plug...

This purpose is for turbo spool only... the flamthrower name is just catchy, thats all. I don't really want to shoot flames, although i'd be cool literally burning the ricers next to me [laugh]

Plus, if u just want flames... a salvage windshield washer tank, pump and spray nozzle (preferably out of an older car(like say a 72 torino)) go FAR!!! about 10' flames, ask me how i know that [coffee]

You could just put a hood stack on, those shoot flames, trust me. I've thought about injecting propane after the turbo in the exhaust so that when my turbo lights and shoots the flame out of the hood stack, it would ignite the propane giving me a much bigger flame instead of just a 6" one i have now...

very nice smokin... my power screw is turned only one or two times... im unsure, and its like a rocket, i can't imagine what the full screw would do! lol i do have a very vivid imagination though...[coffee]

Man...Just don't do it....You just bought the truck, don't blow it up.....

well mark... good question, Faster spool... to the mooon basically.

heck no, would never do such a thing to a beauty like my truck. The motor is basically untouched, with 104k its just getting broken in. I am putting a diesel saver system on, thats all as far as propane goes. blowing up the truck comes down the road...

I always only one hard run from a melted piston or a windowed block. Go big, or go home...

Like the way this man thinks also
(didn't you have the video of the nos bottle into your intake on the dyno?) ballzy yet awesome!

Idealy i would if i knew every thing else would hold up. The trans is the weak part in my truck, thats why im not going to hotrod it much more than what i got now.

But those work trucks are in for a wake up :-D if i am truely onto something i want rights to this idea [coffee]... well maybe just my set-up because ideas cost more to patten :-P

Maybe this will happen?
http://www.cumminsracing.com/images/...loded%20sm.jpg

"If" you can get the propane to light, all it will do is add backpressure and boost. It will just stress the turbo harder while having no positive effect.

You ever hear of the drag motors running their engines backwords? Intake through the exhaust side and exhaust out the intake side with the fuel timing 740 out?

One of the keys to being cool ...

http://estore.websitepros.com/802805/Detail.bok?no=187

Now .. unbolt the seats so even on minor acceleration you fall back in your chair. Use white out on your boost gauge and rewrite the numbers, quadruple them. Remove the speedometer completely and replace it with a portrait of David Hasslehoff. :cool:

I think I remember a Lotus/Ford that was driven by Jim Clark in the 1963 Indy 500 that the turbo and exhaust was on top and the intake was on the sides of the 289.