Can I change elec. speedo for mech. speedo?
Can I change elec. speedo for mech. speedo?
I've got a 91.5 truck...has the electronic speedometer. Can I change this out for a mechanical one....if I can find one? The speedo, odometer, and trip meter all quit, however the cruise and the o.d. all work fine. I looked in the sticky and did what was suggested there but to no avail. Must be electrical problem.
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Find a used speedo head if thats the problem. Its either a wire problem or a speedo head issue. If the Vehicle Speed Sensor ( VSS ) was bad, then overdrive would not work. Your PCM needs a speed signal to select overdrive. Or so thats how I understand things.
Because a mechanical speedo can not " tell " the pcm what is going on. The speedo signal travels through the pcm and then goes to the head unit. The only year with the mechanical speedo and the cummins was 89 which had no pcm, or overdrive. The vss signal talks with the throttle sensor and as a pair they decide the overdrive shift via the pcm.
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Because a mechanical speedo can not " tell " the pcm what is going on. The speedo signal travels through the pcm and then goes to the head unit. The only year with the mechanical speedo and the cummins was 89 which had no pcm, or overdrive. The vss signal talks with the throttle sensor and as a pair they decide the overdrive shift via the pcm.
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Because a mechanical speedo can not " tell " the pcm what is going on. The speedo signal travels through the pcm and then goes to the head unit. The only year with the mechanical speedo and the cummins was 89 which had no pcm, or overdrive. The vss signal talks with the throttle sensor and as a pair they decide the overdrive shift via the pcm.
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Because a mechanical speedo can not " tell " the pcm what is going on. The speedo signal travels through the pcm and then goes to the head unit. The only year with the mechanical speedo and the cummins was 89 which had no pcm, or overdrive. The vss signal talks with the throttle sensor and as a pair they decide the overdrive shift via the pcm.

Good luck.
Aren't there some older 2 piece speedometer cables that drove the older 80's cars & trucks cruise control units? I know GM used them. If so, then why not mount the VSS under the hood and feed the upper cable from it to the speedometer head? It might require an adapter of female to female threads if available. I cant remember how the intermediate cruise control was connected but I think it had 2 female connections.
Aren't there some older 2 piece speedometer cables that drove the older 80's cars & trucks cruise control units? I know GM used them. If so, then why not mount the VSS under the hood and feed the upper cable from it to the speedometer head? It might require an adapter of female to female threads if available. I cant remember how the intermediate cruise control was connected but I think it had 2 female connections.
I think I've located one from a member here on the forum. I found a salvage and I can have mine rebuilt for a tad more than what they wanted!Regards
SOME of the '86-'89 Dodge trucks have a speed sensor (VSS) wired in at the speedo head unit.
It is a 2 wire unit, and I believe, in the 1989 diesel trucks, it shuts the grid heaters off above a certain MPH.
I have an old '89 out here I fully intend to dissect the speedo and wiring from for this very reason, to find out the routing of the VSS on the speedo.
Mark.
It is a 2 wire unit, and I believe, in the 1989 diesel trucks, it shuts the grid heaters off above a certain MPH.
I have an old '89 out here I fully intend to dissect the speedo and wiring from for this very reason, to find out the routing of the VSS on the speedo.
Mark.
Dodge Fullsized pick-ups used a @ 7/8" one.
Not to worry though, certain late '80s Jeeps used an adaptor sleeve on THEIR VSS' that will work on the Dakota sensor to adapt it up to the fullsize cable end.
Mark.
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