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ppiggppenn 03-26-2007 04:11 PM

Armstrong Steering
 
My PS works occasionally, but never when I need it to help back my trailer for example. I replaced the O-ring to the Vac Pump but no change. Now whereas I appreciate the upper body developement I'd rather work on that when nobody's watching. Fluid's up, did the lock-to-lock "bleed" procedure, serpentine belt's good and no noise (well at least none from there! [laugh]). Any theories?

Trebor 03-26-2007 04:33 PM

If you are real lucky you might get by with draining the fluid, flushing the box, and installing an external filter in the return line. If not it's pump time and don't forget to add the filter in the return line. I replaced my pump twice because I thought I could get away without adding the filter.[duhhh] There are suspended metallic contaminates circulating in your fluid that will wreck your new pump when you install it.

BearKiller 03-26-2007 10:41 PM

Something Else To Worry About/have Fun Fixing
 

Originally Posted by Trebor (Post 1427923)
install an external filter in the return line. I replaced my pump twice because I thought I could get away without adding the filter.[duhhh] There are suspended metallic contaminates circulating in your fluid that will wreck your new pump when you install it.



Please go into more detail on this return-line filter.

What kind of filter??

Big canister style or little bitty inline gas filter??

Pictures??

This is the first reference I have seen to a power-steering filter; just how many of you are using them??

Thanks.

Trebor 03-27-2007 07:00 AM

Use a Cardone 20-FLT2 power steering filter. It can be purchased online from www.rockauto.com if nothing is available at your local auto parts store. It's about 2 inches in diameter x 3 inches in length. It looks similar to an inline gasoline filter. Pictures and more info at: http://www.magnefine.com/
Cardone is the distributor for the US.

[nonono] I will NEVER replace another power steering pump without adding this filter. Also note that the instruction sheet that comes with every Cardone pump recommends installing a filter in the return line. [nonono]

BC847 03-27-2007 08:10 PM

Considering the age of our trucks, it's a good idea to go ahead and replace all the rubber lines while you're in there.

Most new/reman pumps included instruction strongly recommend such. :)

ppiggppenn 03-27-2007 08:18 PM

Many thanks guys, I was kinda afraid of that. And nice link to the filter info. Guess you know where I'll be the next while ... [duhhh]

BearKiller 03-27-2007 11:48 PM

No Part Found ???
 

Originally Posted by Trebor (Post 1429008)
Use a Cardone 20-FLT2 power steering filter. It can be purchased online from www.rockauto.com



Thanks for the filter information.

Are you positive on the brand/number??

Because, when I typed it in the parts search at RockAuto, I got "no part found".:(

Thanks.

Trebor 03-28-2007 05:52 AM

It won't sort using the dashes. Here is the link directly to it:
https://www.rockauto.com/dbphp/prt,1,20FLT2

BearKiller 03-28-2007 05:09 PM

Thank You, Kind Sir
 

Originally Posted by Trebor (Post 1430916)
It won't sort using the dashes. Here is the link directly to it:
https://www.rockauto.com/dbphp/prt,1,20FLT2



How often does this filter need changing??

Also, how does one determine when the filter stops up??

I guess two of them will have to find a place in my budget.

Thanks.

Trebor 03-28-2007 06:22 PM

This filter looks like it was designed as an automatic transmission filter and Cardone recommends using it as a heavy duty power steering filter.

From the Magnefine website:

When to change?
Recommended change is every 12 months. It is also advisable to renew your transmission fluid at this time. In fleet applications a test by the Ford motor company demonstrated fluid and filter could be 30,000 miles. (Each transmission runs differently and may require different fluid service intervals.) At change interval you simply evacuate (or drain) the fluid from the system, change the in-line filter and refill. OEMıs acknowledge it is not necessary to touch the pan up to 100,000 miles, unless for mechanical concerns. This also avoids troublesome pan related problems.

Will it clog?
Magnefine double filtration is so efficient it removes 99% of all wear metal contaminants. Itıs design holds the majority of contaminants on the uniquely positioned magnet. Even if the filter element becomes full, itıs safety bypass opens for full flow and the magnet still cleans metal from the system

BearKiller 03-28-2007 06:31 PM

Thank You Again
 

I don't know about the whole thread; but, the information about the steering filter should be put in the "stickys" for everyones future referrence, along with a few pictures of one installed.

mruhlig77 03-28-2007 09:03 PM

Replacing the old hoses is a must...cheaper than a pump...could be collapsing or fraying off inside...Mark


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