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cmac 09-19-2010 07:53 PM

very low on power, fueling problem?
 
my truck lost a bunch of power, it seems to be at stock power levels. it starts and drives fine but here is what it is doing: i get one little puff of smoke if i stomp on it, and it used to smoke quite a bit all the way through the gears. it has the 3k gsk but it now shifts at about 2600 rpm's instead of 3,000-3,100 rpm's. i even took out the arm in the AFC to rule that and an air supply problem with no change in symptoms.

do you think it would be worth changing out the fuel filter even though it isnt due for a change yet? i have a gut feeling that my problem lies within the injection pump.... please let my gut be wrong...[duhhh]

patdaly 09-20-2010 07:44 AM

You need to check the fuel pressures..........

Could be filter, could be overflow valve.

oliver foster 09-20-2010 07:57 AM

I think the same as Patdaly.
I have driven a few p-pumped motored trucks that where gutless until I threw a overflow valve at it. A plugged fuel filter would do the same.
I got my last overflow valve off E-bay for $35 I think.
Someone had the info on here at that time, about finding the e-bay guys ad.

infidel 09-20-2010 09:39 AM

Instructions> http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/94...-12-valve.html

cmac 09-20-2010 04:20 PM

thanks i'll try to get to the parts store tomorrow. is it safe to run the gauge into the truck or should i mount it under the hood somewhere?

cmac 09-20-2010 04:59 PM

also does anyone have a closeup picture of the valve or a part number, the parts stores that i've called dont seem to have a clue what a needle valve is. thanks

infidel 09-20-2010 06:40 PM

Needle valve> http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/Nee...N31?Pid=search

I've had a fuel pressure gauge in the cab of both my trucks for over 13 years without a problem.

cmac 09-21-2010 05:19 PM

ok i got the gauge installed and i am getting 10-11 psi at idle, it drops very little when i rev it up to 2500 rpm's like 8-9 psi. when i give the skinny pedal a push down the road the gauge reads a big fat zero. i'm guessing this means i need to change the fuel filter right?

nuttynotty 09-21-2010 05:56 PM

So what happens when you pinch the return fuel line, if you have no fuel gauge, you need one. The fuel pressure should be around 55~60 PSI, of not I would shoot for the filter, if no change look at the lift pump.

infidel 09-21-2010 06:53 PM

Change the fuel filter and service the prefilter.
Pinch off the return hose that passes behind the fuel filter with pliers with the engine idling.
You should see at least 60 psi on the gauge.
If you don't the lift pump is bad.
If you do and the fuel pressure is still low replace the overflow valve.

cmac 09-21-2010 08:12 PM

thanks! i'll try to get to that tomorrow.

cmac 09-24-2010 04:49 PM

changed the filter and it was black. the pre-filter seems to be where most of my problem came from, there was a bunch of dirt and crap in it, the screen was black and you couldnt see through it. it cleaned up pretty good though. my fuel pressure is up to 17-18 at idle and 20-22 while driving. i havent tried pinching off the return line yet. its crappy outside so i'll do that later. thanks for the help.

brandon mitchel 09-24-2010 10:55 PM

Maybe it's the driveshaft.

cmac 09-25-2010 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by brandon mitchel (Post 2847040)
Maybe it's the driveshaft.

huh?

oliver foster 09-25-2010 12:04 PM

I think brandon might have had one too many on a Fri. night.


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