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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 12:03 PM
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Rear brakes

I recently replaced the rear shoes, cylinders, and hardware on my 94. I reinstalled just how it was before, but I am not sure that the driver's side is correct. If any of you have a photo of the rear brakes, especially the driver's side, please post it or send it to me. 94 2500. Blessings to all.
Keep Haiti in your prayers. I was supposed to fly down last Thursday, but of course I can't get a flight now. It will continue to get worse there.
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 12:28 PM
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I don't have a picture, but if yours is still apart you could put up a pic of it and maybe we could spot something.
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 12:38 PM
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No, it isn't apart. But, I am getting some binding in the back brakes. I believe that the self adjuster is on wrong, because is it backwards compared to the passengers side. But, I don't see how it can go on any other way, and that is how it was before.
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 11:46 AM
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Ok, does anybody know of an accurate photo/diagrahm showing the proper installation of the rear brakes?
All that I have found so far are very generic.
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 05:49 PM
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I always do one side at a time so I can make sure both are the same before and after working on them.
The $30 factory service manual on cd from www.genosgargage.com has good pictures.
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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If i had access to air i would pull my tire off for you and snap a pic. Ill see how it goes but things between my father and I have been very bad. HE threatened to knock a hole in the block of my cummins.

If he ain't around tomorrow i will get a picture for you,
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 07:44 PM
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I always do one side at a time so I can make sure both are the same before and after working on them.
The $30 factory service manual on cd from www.genosgargage.com has good pictures.
I did- but I suspect that the drivers side wasn't previously put together correctly. It is different than the passenger side- the self adjuster is on the opposite side of the way it is installed on the driver side. I suspect that I am getting binding when braking due to that, but just looking at it, I don't see how it can be installed differently. To do so would put both the parking brake lever and the self adjuster lever on the same pivot point. I need to pull that wheel back off, and study it. Maybe this week- my work area is outside, and it has been raining.
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 11:40 AM
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I pulled the drum off yesterday, while stooping in 2" of wet, sloppy gravel and snow, and it looks correct. Rather, looking at it, it can't go together any other way. So, in light of not having anything to reference to, I am going to switch shoes around. When I got the new ones, two were marginally thicker than the other two. So, I put the thick shoes on the front, and the thin shoes on the back. I am going to take things apart, and put the thinner shoes on the front. They are binding when I apply the brakes, and I can not think of any other reason. I greased the contact points when I put everything back, and the bar running between the two shoes is properly installed (read not binding). Any further advise, or some photos of your brakes, would be welcomed. Blessings to all.
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 04:47 PM
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should look like this. it isnt the best pic but its all i could find
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 05:54 PM
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should look like this. it isnt the best pic but its all i could find
Thanks, CMAC! That is exactly what I have been looking for. And, that is how my brakes are installed, although on mine, the thicker shoe lining is towards the front, where on yours, it is on the back. I will be changing that, so see if it makes a difference. Again, thanks!
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 07:42 PM
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The shoe on the front should be shorter than the rear.
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 07:43 PM
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Make sure you pay attention to the swept area of the shoes, the one with less area always goes on the front. Notice on CMAC's picture how the rear shoes lining goes almost all the way to the top?

That has bit many people.
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Hodge
Thanks, CMAC! That is exactly what I have been looking for. And, that is how my brakes are installed, although on mine, the thicker shoe lining is towards the front, where on yours, it is on the back. I will be changing that, so see if it makes a difference. Again, thanks!
The longer, and generally thicker, shoe should go on the rear...the smaller front (primary) shoe engages first, which rolls the rear (secondary) shoe into the drum which then performs the majority of the braking force.

If they're backwards on yours, that should explain the lockup scenario...
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 09:21 PM
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you're welcome glad i could help!
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 04:25 PM
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GMAC, and all you others, thanks so much for your input and help! Switching the shoes around has done the trick. I had put them on the other way under the council of a good intentioned but obviously mistaken mechanic. You live and learn every day! It drives fantastic now! The brakes worked the other way, but they grabbed, and squealed. Now, they are buttery smooth.
On to the next project.
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