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Old 12-15-2012, 04:52 PM
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good write up! i did my tstat and gasket and wasnt sure which way the tstat went in. it will go in both ways so be careful, and so will the seal. also, i found a shortcut rather than taking off the alt and belt, just undo the upper alt bracket and rotate it out of the way!
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Good write up, I just changed out my thermostat but it only has one jingle hole not two, Do you have that part number for the Cummins T-Stat? I may need to change it out if this one gives me problems.
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Originally Posted by nolafishr
Good write up, I just changed out my thermostat but it only has one jingle hole not two, Do you have that part number for the Cummins T-Stat? I may need to change it out if this one gives me problems.
Sorry, I dont, however your local dealer or parts shop should have it.
Old 12-24-2012, 10:21 AM
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And the magic number is,,,,,,,
3972071 and the gasket is 3923331.
The previous one I bought from Dodge looked exactly the same.
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Thanks Cougar! Omitting part numbers was a mistake when I first wrote this..
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It is an ingenius design. I've never seen or heard of another one like it that does not use sealer.
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Originally Posted by CactusPete
It is an ingenius design. I've never seen or heard of another one like it that does not use sealer.
You don't use sealer???
Old 12-25-2012, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by cougar
You don't use sealer???
No man, it's designed to be put together dry. Doesn't leak a drop since I replaced it 6 mos ago
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Mine leaks if I don't. The surface is pretty rough.
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I'm wondering if I need a new thermostat.
I picked up a E350 w/1st gen in 80 degree weather and it ran in the lower "normal" range. Ford van gauges don't have numbers.
When I drove the van back up to 40 degree Iowa, the engine temp barely reaches the "normal" range. Im guessing the stat never opens since I'm not towing? or stuck?

When I owned a CRD jeep, I was told I was loosing mpg when the thermostat ran cold. Would that also apply to my 1st gen cummins?

BTW. Mt dodge dealer gave me the stat # of MD972903 which included the gasket.
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That is about were both of mine range, except on a hot day towing through the mountains. Then it will climb to mid way or a bit higher.
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Originally Posted by rebar
I'm wondering if I need a new thermostat.
I picked up a E350 w/1st gen in 80 degree weather and it ran in the lower "normal" range. Ford van gauges don't have numbers.
When I drove the van back up to 40 degree Iowa, the engine temp barely reaches the "normal" range. Im guessing the stat never opens since I'm not towing? or stuck?

When I owned a CRD jeep, I was told I was loosing mpg when the thermostat ran cold. Would that also apply to my 1st gen cummins?

BTW. Mt dodge dealer gave me the stat # of MD972903 which included the gasket.
Never opens or is always open? Could be either.

I replaced mine and i can see it warm up to the second line then the tstat opens and it will drop down. It will slowly come up to just above the first line i think when it has reached a steady temp.
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Originally Posted by BILTIT
Never opens or is always open? Could be either.

I replaced mine and i can see it warm up to the second line then the tstat opens and it will drop down. It will slowly come up to just above the first line i think when it has reached a steady temp.
Not sure.. My temp does not fluctuate and it takes forever to barely creep into the normal range. And it runs allot colder here in Iowa.
I think the stat is stuck, or I never pushed the amount of fuel needed to warm up?

All I know is it should run warmer but if the fix is a piece of cardboard, I don't want to replace it since the PO said it was new and running cooler than the old stat. But its all hear say..
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I would guess it is stuck open. I would replace it myself, or atleast pull it out and test it in boiling water.
Old 04-28-2013, 01:07 PM
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The easiest way to tell is to get out and check the temp of the radiator when the engine has been running for long enough that it's warm, but not up to operating temp. If the radiator is about the same temperature as the engine, then the stat is stuck open. That was my big problem. After I replaced it, the radiator stayed ice cold until it got completely warm.


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