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Old 02-26-2006, 01:09 PM
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Jack does a great job at keeping everything up to date with the latest patches and backups. However, I do keep a copy of every article I add just for insurance.
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EXCELLENT!

Thanks for the good work you folks do.
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Nice writeup BC! Makes me want to spend the $$ for a piston pump and put my brand new diaphragm pump on epay (diaphragm pumps been sitting in the garage for about ohhhhhh 8 months now...lazy lazy me).
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Your write up

Just changed mine out yesterday and followed your procedures step by step. Great Job...no leaks! I've had the parts for about a month now, just waiting for something like this to come along. This site is great! Carmyne
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Great job, makes me want to run out and get one tomorrow.
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Just thought I would post up with the new part numbers good as of 9/19/06.

The 2 small seals: 3963983
2 larger gaskets (same as old #): 3931348
Spacer: 3914284

Those should be the right numbers, straight out of the parts guy's mouth at cummins .
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Originally Posted by Ilikebikes
Just thought I would post up with the new part numbers good as of 9/19/06.

The 2 small seals: 3963983
2 larger gaskets (same as old #): 3931348
Spacer: 3914284

Those should be the right numbers, straight out of the parts guy's mouth at cummins .
Last time I was at Cummins Northwest, they said that the 3914284 speacer was discontinued. I found one by calling around.
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Back to top -- guys I was wondering if there was a model or era that this pump is from, is it from a later Cummins? I am wondering if its cheaper to just go to the parts store where there are locations all over the place and get one with a warantee, rather than going to Cummins and possibly spending more?
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Again - is there an OEM application (for example an '04 Dodge?) for the piston style pump or is it something you can only get through Cummins?
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Originally Posted by dieslcruisrhead
Back to top -- guys I was wondering if there was a model or era that this pump is from, is it from a later Cummins? I am wondering if its cheaper to just go to the parts store where there are locations all over the place and get one with a warranty, rather than going to Cummins and possibly spending more?
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Again - is there an OEM application (for example an '04 Dodge?) for the piston style pump or is it something you can only get through Cummins?
Unless I'm mistaken, it's OEM for the newer CTD's.

HOWEVER!

The later models run a much higher output pressure. I can't remember the number, but it's more than we want for the VE.

If you have a late model pump, you can get a spring kit (THD) that allows you to easily build the pump for the VE.

I'm not sure of the many applications, but it appears what we want is only available through Cummins.

Though I've not read about it, perhaps others are aware of a part number that would get it through a local parts house.
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There are a bunch of the actual pumps on ebay that are pretty cheap and brand new.

I'm still on the hunt for the spacers and the gaskets for my 4bt. It looks like I could just bend my fuel line to fit as mine runs toward the back of the engine from the lift pump. We'll see.
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Originally Posted by dieslcruisrhead
Again - is there an OEM application (for example an '04 Dodge?) for the piston style pump or is it something you can only get through Cummins?
Looks like it is possibly for the VE equipped 8.3L 6CT Cummins engines.
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http://www.made-in-china.com/china-p...Fuel-Pump.html
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so has any on found a source for the piston lift pump,...spacer?
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so has any on found a source for the piston lift pump,...spacer?
Or does anybody have a spacer handy that they could measure the thickness with a micrometer? I'd imagine grades 5051 or 6061 aluminum would work as the material?
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Cummins has the spacer and the part number is in the tech faqs. Its less than $10 so hardly worth your time to make one!!

In fact everything you need to do the retro from cummins, minus the pump is less that $50.


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