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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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ladder bars

I am lookin to put ladder bars on my truck for this pulling season. And i want to make them, i am a pretty good welder and i can fab things pretty good. Does anyone have pictures or information on them?
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 10:00 PM
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I have the same question.... Anybody?
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 10:52 PM
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Theres a bunch of information on them when I search this site for "ladder bar":
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...earchid=187796

Then you can visit google for the same thing:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...rs&btnG=Search

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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 01:13 AM
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Here's what I'm going to try. Take it as you will. I'm using a 1/8 plate of steal to go on the bottom side of the ubolts. It will bolt up to the four bolts. Weld brakets to that. Then use 2" DOM tube with 1/2 wall thickness tapped to fit 1 1/4" heims. Then build brackets to bolt to the frame to keep the bars parallel with the drive shaft. I'll have to drill holes in the frame, but I'm thinknig it should work.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 07:52 AM
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It'll work perfectly! (But you'll need material thicker than 1/8" for you plates, more like 1/4 - 1/2") I made my set that way and I have seen tons of others made the exact same way as well. The will work and they will save your driveline in the process. Also note, that where you attach to your frame will need a plate on top and bottom of the frame to prevent the frame from cracking! And make sure you use grade 8 bolts for your mounting or they will break .

You should proceed with your plan and take some pictures when you're done so we can see them. I always like to see others work as well, so maybe I can improve my own.

Good luck!
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 03:49 AM
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Thanks for the heads up on the thinner metal. I probably go with the 1/4 and try that seeings how I have a bunch laying around. I'm going to contact a few places her in the near future and see if someone make something similar to a hiem but with a poly bushing so I dont feel as much road noise/vibration as you normaly would with the hiem
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 10:53 AM
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http://www.qa1.net/ makes all styles of rod ends. Summit and Jegs both carry them. However, I've heard the poly or kevlar 3 piece ends designed to reduce vibration don't last as long as the 2 piece ends. I believe the vibration beats the kevlar out the side of the rod end. **I've not had any experience with either style, but I intend to use 2 piece for mine.**

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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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FWIW I have a set on my truck that I made with 3 point bars for a tractor. Just cut them in half insert them into you tube and weld them up. They are about 6' long. Then I used 1/4" for the brackets. I have had them on for about 5K miles and have had no problems with them, Even with doing burnouts and hard launches ( had to test out the Nitrous you know )


Thanks Brenden
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 07:24 AM
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Yep, same setup here. Took a top/3rd link off of a tractor and lengthed it. welded two 1/8 plates on the bottom of each side of the axle tube and put a pin through the mounts for the back and welded a 3/8 piece to the frame and bolted it on there
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 07:33 AM
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Thanks for the help Brandon. That place isn't to far away from me.
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 07:53 AM
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so a single bar, attached to the bottom of the U-bolts with a plate...which is then parallel to the drive shaft and attached to the frame is good enough to stop the axle wrapping and axle hop???

i am going to start gathering materials, heim joints are the main thing i need, and ill use a poly bushing on the axle end
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 09:19 AM
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That's how mine's setup. Just a plate on the bottom of the u-bolts, a bracket on the frame, and a bar connecting the two.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 10:06 AM
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It all depends on how you are gonna use them that determines the gauge of material you should use. I used a tractor top link cut in half with doubled up pipe for mine, but I do alot of sled pulling (I bent the 1.5" Thick wall pipe, so I put it inside a 2" thick pipe and welded it all up). I have bent the 5/8" pins I used and the 1/2" frame mounting brackets also along with shearing off the 3 - 3/8" grade 8 bolts to hold it to the frame . So what ever you use, just make sure it's heavy enough the 1st time so you don't have to go back do it again.

For most driver, Rancho makes a nice set that seems to work fairly well. For heavy sledpulling though, I just don't think they would hold up long (IMO). The Rancho set are nice looking and easy to install. And from what I remember the where not priced all that bad either. Just some thing to consider.
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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Where are you guys finding the 2" DOM tubing???
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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Does any have any pictures of the Haisley Machine traction bars?? Their's are 375 for the traction bar and bracket.
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