That is how the original "cop-killer" bullets got banned. They were a pretty simple lead bullet that had a nylon coating applied. They were designed to prevent leading in a barrel when shot indoors. They also helped minimize atomized lead in the air in and enclosed range. Both great benefits. It was found out that as a side effect, they penetrated slightly better, deeper. It was noted that they may penetrate the early bullet "resistant" vests at the time and the gun grabbers jumped on them and designated them "cop-killers".

That was never the intention of the development of the round and as far as I know, there were no known cases of them being used against law enforcement. Didn't matter, the anti-gunners had found a new bandwagon to jump on. The media ginned it up into a fury and they used it to eliminate a good product. They are like predators and they will take advantage of any weakness that is shown to advance their liberal agenda.

 

Yup, I heard someone talking about that yesterday as well.

Anti's know they can't legislate guns out of our hands but they sure seem to have found interesting ways to attempt and regulate them into oblivion.

 

Now that I think of it, if the EPA wants to do somethin worthwhile, they should ban the lead in my foot. It will aid in the conservation of VP44's, and put an end to wasting of tires

 

Good news:

Associated Press | Posted: Saturday, August 28, 2010 2:54 pm | Comments

Font Sizeefault font sizeLarger font sizeThe Environmental Protection Agency has denied a petition by five environmental groups to ban lead in hunting ammunition, saying the issue is not within the agency's jurisdiction.

The EPA said Friday it did not have the authority to enact the ban, aimed at protecting wildlife, under the Toxic Substances Control Act, as the groups had requested.

But the agency said it's still reviewing another part of the petition, to ban lead fishing sinkers.

The EPA informed one of the groups, American Bird Conservancy, of the decision in a letter.

The groups had argued in their petition that millions of animals are dying from eating lead-shot pellets or carcasses contaminated by lead. They said an estimated 10 million to 20 million birds and other animals die each year from lead poisoning in the U.S.

In a petition filed earlier this month, the environmental groups argued that instances of lead poisoning from ammunition and fishing sinkers "present an unreasonable risk of injury" to both human health and the environment.

The petition cited nearly 500 peer-reviewed scientific articles that the environmental groups said document the toxic effects of lead on wildlife.

These studies "conclude that the lead components of bullets, shotgun pellets, fishing weights and lures pose an unreasonable risk of injury to human and wildlife health and the environment," the Aug. 3 petition argued.

The EPA was required to respond to the petition within 90 days.

"EPA is taking action on many fronts to address major sources of lead in our society such as eliminating childhood exposure to lead," Steve Owens, the agency's assistant administrator for chemical safety and pollution prevention said in a statement.

But he said the agency "was not and is not considering taking action on whether the lead content in hunting ammunition poses an undue threat to wildlife."

The environmentalists were sharply critical of the EPA decision, arguing the agency has the authority to act and that there is a wide range of non-lead ammunition available.

"The EPA had ample evidence that lead bullets and shot have a devastating effect on America's wildlife, yet has refused to do anything about it," said Darin Schroeder, vice president for conservation advocacy at the American Bird Conservancy, one of the petitioners. "It's disappointing to see this country's top environmental agency simply walk away from the preventable poisoning of birds and other wildlife."

Also signing the petition were the Association of Avian Veterinarians, Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility and Project Gutpile.

 

I need a new bumper sticker. They can have my Beryllium Copper bullets when they pry them from my dead fingers........LOL

 

how come they don't wanna ban wheel weights? Those things fall off rims all the time! The day the EPA will be happy is the day they ban the wheel.

 

I dont know much about ammo but in plumbing they have changed from lead solder to a mix of tin and something? it is just as flexible and easy to use so maybe it will be a good substitute for ammo. Just a thought.

 

And fishing sinkers.

 

Fishing sinkers, tackle, etc containing lead was listed in the petition to the EPA as well as ammunition. These guys won't stop until one of us is gone! I just received this from a place I buy lures from:

To Our Customers,

Occasionally, an issue of such importance arises we feel it necessary to contact our loyal customers. With our fishing rights at stake, this is such an issue.

On August 23, 2010, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency was petitioned by the Center for Biological Diversity and others to ban lead from ammunition and fishing tackle, including sinkers, jigs, weighted fly lines and components containing lead, such as brass and ballast in lures, spinners, stick baits and others fishing products.

On August 27, the EPA denied the petition regarding ammunition, but let stand the petition to ban lead in fishing tackle and has opened a short period for taking public comment.

Such a ban would cause prices of fishing products to skyrocket. Alternative metals can cost from 6 to 15 times more than lead, and most do not perform as well. For many, fishing would no longer be the affordable sport it is now.

Please join us and Keep America Fishing in opposing this ban by submitting your comments to the EPA by no later than September 15, 2010. You can easily do so by Clicking Here.

The "click here" link will take you to a simple format to make your feelings know about a lead ban. There is even a prepared text that you can send if you do not want to send one of your own. It is a fast and easy way to assure your opinion is heard. Many segments of the fishing tackle industry are very concerned about this potential ban. We can assure you thart a lead ban would eliminate a large part of the fishing tackle industry and a lot of fishing.

Thank you for your help.

Barlow's Tackle

 

Because hunters don't use wheel weights to harvest bambi...

If it was a good substitute for lead core bullets, I think the industry would already be using it.

 

It probably costs more now but when the system is mass produced the cost would come down. With todays science you can make things to fit any need with alternative materials. Different materials can be used for different needs. This is not the cheap way for someone who uses alot of ammo each year shooting but can be an alternative for some until cost comes down. We did move from covered wagons to Diesel rams didn't we?

 

Tin is horrendously expensive. For the little bit you use in solder, OK, but to make sinkers?

Besides, the EPA knows we would turn in our Bullets one at a time.......

 

The chinese make toys and baby food that is poison for our kids, maybe they can make our ammo cheap out of nuclear waste so you can be happy.

 

It's too soft, you would still have to add something harder (lead) to make it an effective bullet. when I melt down wheel weights to cast bullets, I'll usually melt in a couple inches of solder to soften it up a bit. It's got tin like someone mentiopned. Antimony is also used in bullets to harden the lead alloy up some

 

again I reiterate... If there was an acceptable substitute for lead core bullets; i.e., mass producible, inexpensive, identical performance, etc, then the industry would already be using it. Just because something is being substituted in the plumbing industry doesn't make it acceptable in the ammunition industry.