Mexico!

An acquanitance of mine with dual citizenship (must be nice!) decided he had enough of the USA and moved back to Mexico (leaving all his bills, including his mortgage behind). He showed me his receipts: Pemex charged him 1.78 per gallon in September 07 and 1.98 per gallon in December. (I did the metric conversion so don't tell me I'm confusing litres/gallons).

BTW- he took his 2007 4wd QC2500, a 2007 $22k stock trailer and all the loot from his maxed out credit cards which included a new $6k hydraulic pump for his John Deere backhoe. All items bought NO MONEY DOWN and he only made a couple payments on the truck! he says the truck runs fine on Ultra high sulpher diesel in ol' Mehico!

1 guy just burned US banks/finance companies for $400K- I sure hope there arent alot more guys like him runnin around, might cause a recession or somethin'

A buddy of mine goes to Mexico to get fuel. He has an aftermarket tank with another bed mounted (but removable) 80 gal tank. He pays just over $2.00. My work is going to pay for my a passport [guitar] and as soon as it happens I will be going also. Just need to get an aux tank to fill to keep the trips down.

BTW he is VERY picky about where he gets his fuel and says he has not had any problems with it.

One good thing about living 20 min. from Mexico [coffee]

Mexico is an OPEC country and most of them subsidise their oil so it's dirt cheap for their citizens and they don't riot in the streets starting revolutions. As far as the credit card companies and banks go. Serves em right. They'll give a credit card to a dog if you fill one of those junk mail apps out for Fido and send it in. And they make more profit than "evil" oil companies.

Well.....lets hope your friend never needs to move back...because he has basically burned the bridge. Not a good model to emulate IMO

And on edit...he also didn't take his house with him...it will go into foreclosure and get sold off eventually to pay for the mortgage. Again...not a very long term strategy for life in my not so humble opinion on this particular type of topic.

Well.....lets hope your friend never needs to move back...because he has basically burned the bridge. Not a good model to emulate IMO

I think it's a great model, they should all use it. And if they burn the idiotic Banks in the process, even better .... [coffee]

Yep I love it. Some genious at bank of America thought it would be a grand idea to give credit cards to people with no social security number and no US ID. "You've got a Consulado card?" No problemo, heres $2500.00!"

But wait a minute- whats this about the (not)Federal (NO)reserve "injecting capital" into the banking industry? 200 Billion tuesday plus 280 billion today? Who's money is that?

That's right J6P taxpayer, Uncle sam is pointing that finger at you! Because as you know, when banks make money the profits are THEIRS. When they lose money, it's OURS. We're gonna pay dearly for this banking fraud. dearly.
Hope y'all know how to garden...

Although I can understand the OP's friend deciding it was time for a change and a move south I cant condone burning banks and other lenders....Why? Because we pay for it. CC companies have a risk scoring system that can jack rates for anyone at any time for any reason. Next Bank of Amerikka bill I get i will know that .03 cents of my money is going towards another person that didnt pay his bill. If there was no such thing as folks not paying their bills we could all borrow money at half a point over prime.

You're dreaming if you think you'd get credit for a half a point interest with everyone paying their bills on time. They charge whatever rate they want because they can. You pay your phone bill one day late and they hike your credit card rate just because... they can... They take social security checks from little ol widows with dimentia and don't even blink an eye. They make so much money off the honest people who pay up that a few losers taking a hike like doesn't hurt their bottom line one bit. I have no sympathy for credit card companies at all and the banks aren't much better. They're both greedy and along with the government largely responsible for the economic mess we're in right now. I bet that guy could come back to the states apply for a credit card tomorrow and get one... I hope he enjoys the ram and the cheap fuel [laugh]

The bad thing is, there's hundreds of thousands of duel citizen people doing the same thing, daily! These idiots are also taking our jobs for low hourly rates, putting u.s citizens out on the streets and then stiffing everyone else around them. But can you blame them, with there duel citizen ship the can also vote. And the donkeys will be getting votes in very high numbers from these people.

Funny thing is these bigshots that think its a great idea and funny, would have something different to say, if they had a family business and got STUCK with a $400,000 loss, or if i stole their truck and insurance did not cover it, or there warranty wasnt honored!! now it would be a big Waaaaa.....burger for them!LOL i would be nice if they'd hunt him down and anty up
imo!

Tell him thanks (by a swift kick to the butt) for raising our interest rates.....

Talk about a piece of crap....

That's ok... $1.98/gal... who cares...

I friend of mine was just in Dubai, Driving around in a Hummer H1... With a 50gallon tank. They relized they were about out of fuel and pulled into a local station. Told the guy to fill it up and then afterward gave him thier credit card. They did not accept credit cards, Cash only! After a collective "Oh Crap" they started trying to pool their money together to pay for 50 gallons of fuel... Then the attendent told them the bill was $10!!! They laughed all the way back to their hotel!!!

so yeah.. Dubai... Diesel is $0.20 per gallon!!! Who's getting it???

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so yeah.. Dubai... Diesel is $0.20 per gallon!!! Who's getting it???

We should be charging them $50 for an apple.:o

Mexico!

An acquanitance of mine with dual citizenship (must be nice!) decided he had enough of the USA and moved back to Mexico (leaving all his bills, including his mortgage behind). He showed me his receipts: Pemex charged him 1.78 per gallon in September 07 and 1.98 per gallon in December. (I did the metric conversion so don't tell me I'm confusing litres/gallons).

BTW- he took his 2007 4wd QC2500, a 2007 $22k stock trailer and all the loot from his maxed out credit cards which included a new $6k hydraulic pump for his John Deere backhoe. All items bought NO MONEY DOWN and he only made a couple payments on the truck! he says the truck runs fine on Ultra high sulpher diesel in ol' Mehico!

1 guy just burned US banks/finance companies for $400K- I sure hope there arent alot more guys like him runnin around, might cause a recession or somethin'



[duhhh][duhhh]IT'S CHEAP IN MEXICO CAUSE THERE IS NO ONE THERE TO USE IT.[dummy][dummy]THERE ALL IN AMERICA...VIVA LA MEXICO.

If you think the west cost is bad Check the East cost out no different!

falstaff,
Please thank your friend on my behalf, that is not the purpose of having dual citizenship. We as a society indirectly pay for such actions.

DiEseLjunKy,
Although diesel in México is affordable (even when compared to the standard of living) gasoline is not. Many people in mexican border towns that are able to enter the U.S. prefer to pump gasoline in the States as it is still cheaper and not diluted with water.

AirGrabber,
Thanks for the kind words[redface]
Please don't generalize unless you are certain that the model applies to the whole population. As far as voting...well, there are too many variables to say for certain that all vote donkey.

BADRAM1,
Demand for diesel is plenty. Also, were I live mexican dodge cummins have been selling like pancakes. Ohh, and dealerships are very customer friendly.

I pumped diesel last night and it cost me close to $2.23/gal. Next week I go to Tucson and I am thinking of putting diesel in water bottles, baby bottles, beer bottles and anything that can hold liquid as my sister told me prices are very close to $4/gal.

We all pay for his stupid idea, moving back to mexico and not paying his bills. WE ALL PAY, you, me, and the next guy. You think they just shrug their shoulders and take the loss? NO! They stick the bill to the rest of us with interest rates, annual fee's, and so on.

If he comes back and the wrong people find out, he will be leaving his debt to his heirs, and you can count on that.

hunt the guy down and make him pay it back!

The guy that did that is a toad. At least he could have sold all the junk he had and paid what he could instead of just stealing it all. That being said, I dont have much sympathy for the credit card companies or for people complaining about their charges and interest rates. Having credit cards is a choice, not a necessity. Most credit card companies are predators and I dont do business with them. I havent had a credit card for years and do not intend to ever again. Its not because I got hosed or anything, its just simple numbers, they are a bad deal for the consumer.[rant]

I have a friend whos father did the same thing, but went to Thailand.... Well he couldn't make any money in Thailand... and didn't want to come back to the US for obvious reasons... so he worked in Canada for a while, but still in his carrer field couldn't find a good enough job... So guess what he is doing now... living in a tiny appt in the US, working his *** off trying to get out of the debt he made 6 years ago....

My wife finished getting her degree a while back and when she was in school and NOT working she would get at least 2-3 calls a week trying to get her to consolidate her student loans. They would tell her she could start paying in 2 months and she would tell them she is STILL IN SCHOOL and NOT working. They did not seem to flinch. Even though she was close to graduating she would say she had another year of school before she could get a job and they still wanted to loan her the money to consolidate and start paying in a few months. [dummy] [dummy] It is no wonder these lending companies are hurting.

If any of the original post is true, that guy belongs in jail. He's no better than a common criminal. I hope he gets arrested the moment he sets his foot back on US soil. It's scum like this that are ruining this country. Second of all, I have several credit cards, all very low interest and never carry a balance. They are a great tool. They allow you to travel without bringing a bunch of cash and if it's stolen or lost you can cancel it and get a new one. My guess is that the people who are crying about how evil CC companies are, must have poor self control and even worse finances. Here's a news flash, it isn't required to carry a balance on your cards. If you can't afford to pay for all of it, then don't buy it.

The bad thing is, there's hundreds of thousands of duel citizen people doing the same thing, daily! These idiots are also taking our jobs for low hourly rates, putting u.s citizens out on the streets and then stiffing everyone else around them. But can you blame them, with there duel citizen ship the can also vote. And the donkeys will be getting votes in very high numbers from these people.

There is a fundamental misunderstanding here. If someone has dual citizenship, that person IS a US citizen by definition and is no different than any other citizen with regard to rights and responsibilities.

Dual citizenship doesn't even mean that an individual was not born in the US. Some countries grant automatic citizenship to certain ethic groups. Some grant it to children of their citizens, even though they weren't born in the granting country. It is quite possible for a US citizen to have dual citizenship even though he or she has never been outside of this country.

By all means bash someone who steals and runs. And bash those who enter the country illegally, but don't bash those who are here legally, whether they are resident aliens or US citizens by by birth or naturalization. To do so is xenophobic.

If you must bash someone, choose the politicians who have let the illegal immigration situation get to where it is.

For instance, me. Born in the U.S. but I have lived most of my life in México. Also, Mexican citizen because my dad is Mexican.

If any of the original post is true, that guy belongs in jail. He's no better than a common criminal. I hope he gets arrested the moment he sets his foot back on US soil. It's scum like this that are ruining this country. Second of all, I have several credit cards, all very low interest and never carry a balance. They are a great tool. They allow you to travel without bringing a bunch of cash and if it's stolen or lost you can cancel it and get a new one. My guess is that the people who are crying about how evil CC companies are, must have poor self control and even worse finances. Here's a news flash, it isn't required to carry a balance on your cards. If you can't afford to pay for all of it, then don't buy it.

Actually the bigger scum here are the ones who make credit so easily available which is why the economy is in such a huge mess. Everything you said you use a credit card for you can do the same thing with a debit card and it's got the exact same fraud protections. I haven't had a credit card in about 10 years - except for one I got recently to save 3 cents on fuel - I found out later though a person could put cash on a wally world gift card and save the same 3 cents. Course really 3 cents seems hardly worth the effort anymore... I agree that guy is a scumburger but they won't ever miss that money. The fraud is a drop in the bucket compared to the slaves at 8, 9, 10, 20 and 30% who willingly run up a bunch of debt and give away all this easy money. Cut them up and get rid of them..

I live in the UAE, (for the last 15 years)where Dubai is, and diesel is NOT 20 cents a gallon. I't's 8.75 Dihrams a gallon which is $2.37 a gallon, it's actually 4 liters which is more than an American gallon. Premium gas is $1.83. These prices are going to double within the next year, so they'll soon be close to American prices. This in a country with less than a million people and lifting 2 million barrels a day. So the gov't here is making big bucks on their oil. The locals can afford it, but the poor working stiffs, (Indians, Phillipinos, Pakistanis etc) who make up about 85% of the population are really getting hit hard. Inflation, especially food is about 50% a year because their currency is pegged to the dollar, so as the dollar goes down, it's more expensive to import stuff, and they have to import everything as nothing but oil is produced here. Gas stations are a government monopoly so the prices are EXACTLY the same everywhere in the country. Dubai's oil company is Epco, and Abu Dhabi's (where I live) is Adnoc (Abu Dhabi National Oil Company).

Maybe your friend made a mistake when he converted the currencies, but he's wrong.

Now if you cross into Saudi Arabia, it's about 55 cents a gallon.

Regarding credit cards, Deesel is right, you can pay it all off when you get the bill. I have never paid one cent of interest to a credit card company. If I can't afford to do that, I don't buy it. Sure, you can get easy credit, but you're supposed to be responsible enough not to get in over your head. Same with the mortgage crisis. If you're too stupid or lazy to read the fine print, ask the right questions, then you don't deserve to get a mortgage, or any kind of credit. Nobody is ruining the country except stupid, lazy people, who are like children in a toy store, buying a lot of crap they can't afford, (which usually ends up in the garage gathering dust and rust), and then blaming the cc companies. Grow up!!!

Tabing... I may have made the conversion wrong...

These are the facts as I know them... they spent $10 to fill up an empty Hummer H1 in Dubai...

I did the conversion to $0.20 / gallon, as Most all Hummer H1's have a 50 gallon tank...

But, if you say it's $2.37 / gallon then so be it...

I guess they have the only H1 with a 4.2194092827004219409282700421941 gallon tank on it!!![duhhh]

Regarding credit cards, Deesel is right, you can pay it all off when you get the bill. I have never paid one cent of interest to a credit card company. If I can't afford to do that, I don't buy it. Sure, you can get easy credit, but you're supposed to be responsible enough not to get in over your head. Same with the mortgage crisis. If you're too stupid or lazy to read the fine print, ask the right questions, then you don't deserve to get a mortgage, or any kind of credit. Nobody is ruining the country except stupid, lazy people, who are like children in a toy store, buying a lot of crap they can't afford, (which usually ends up in the garage gathering dust and rust), and then blaming the cc companies. Grow up!!!
This is all true. But the CC companies are predators, what else can they be called when they purposely target the most vulnerable, least experienced people? Like college kids. Many of them dont have a clue what kind of slope they are starting to slide down when these companies start offering them "free money". If you ask me, they are just as bad as a tobacco company targeting kids. Plus, like I said, they arent a good deal. Studies show that people spend more when using a credit card, so even if you pay the balance every month, most people are spending unnecessary amounts of money (I dont blame the CC company for that, its just human nature, but it is just not a good deal.) Dieseljunkjy is right, you can use a debit card for when cash is not practical and have all the advantages of a credit card. I am not trying to tell anyone that their way is bad or wrong, some people probably have managed to use cards without ever having it cost them extra money, I just think it is rare.
Now, an actual "adult" that is irresponsible and buys a bunch of crap he cant afford will get no sympathy from me. The same with the mortgage mess, the stupidity that people exhibited in taking out mortgages that they couldnt afford for way more house than they need is repulsive. Here in Phoenix, I remember hearing an ad on the radio for a mortgage broker where the moron actually said that they could help you get a mortgage that is little more than you can afford!

From Dubai oil company.

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Raise Diesel Pump Prices

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on 25 February raised the pump price of diesel oil by 30 fils/gallon to Dh12.80 ($3.48)/gallon from Dh12.50 ($3.41)/gallon, which came into effect on 7 January 2008. The increase is the sixth in four months. ADNOC DistributionADNOC DistributionLoading... however has maintained its price for diesel at Dh8.60 ($2.34)/gallon since January 2007, which is lower by Dh3.90 ($1.06)/gallon from the new price announced by ENOCENOC
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I was wrong, diesel is more expensive in Dubai than I thought.

so be it...

they must have had a 4.2 gallon tank!!!

so be it...

they must have had a 4.2 gallon tank!!!

Or your friend was just "Telling stories" and you fell for it.

Or your friend was just "Telling stories" and you fell for it.

The tank was probably like ten bucks to fill :D

Tabing... I may have made the conversion wrong...

These are the facts as I know them... they spent $10 to fill up an empty Hummer H1 in Dubai...

I did the conversion to $0.20 / gallon, as Most all Hummer H1's have a 50 gallon tank...

But, if you say it's $2.37 / gallon then so be it...

I guess they have the only H1 with a 4.2194092827004219409282700421941 gallon tank on it!!![duhhh]

I'm an army mechanic, and I know for certain hmmwv's don not have 50 gallon tanks, they are 21 at the most, I don't think I've ever put more than 17 gallons in one as a matter of fact. I would assume that an H1's fuel capacity is similar, there is simply not very much room under them.

http://www.seriouswheels.com/cars/top-2006-Hummer-H1-Alpha.htm

At the same time, fuel economy of the H1 also improves. Preliminary testing indicates significantly improved fuel economy. A revised fuel system also increases capacity of the H1’s two on-board tanks to 51.5 gallons, 9.5 gallons more than previous H1s. The increased tank capacity combines with the efficiency of the Duramax to raise cruising range from 400 miles to an estimated 570 miles between fill-ups.

I'm an army mechanic, and I know for certain hmmwv's don not have 50 gallon tanks, they are 21 at the most, I don't think I've ever put more than 17 gallons in one as a matter of fact. I would assume that an H1's fuel capacity is similar, there is simply not very much room under them.

OK... did more research... we are both right...

Fuel capacity: 26 US gal (98 L/22 imp gal) main
17 US gal (64 L/14 imp gal) auxiliary

So the Main tank has 26 gal and the aux has 17... = 43 gal

Apparently the 2006 Alpha went up to 50 gal

http://www.seriouswheels.com/cars/top-2006-Hummer-H1-Alpha.htm

Wow, 11mpg is an improvement? If my Ram had a ~52 gallon tank, I'd see 1,000 miles easy.......

Mexico is an OPEC country and most of them subsidise their oil so it's dirt cheap for their citizens and they don't riot in the streets starting revolutions. As far as the credit card companies and banks go. Serves em right. They'll give a credit card to a dog if you fill one of those junk mail apps out for Fido and send it in. And they make more profit than "evil" oil companies.

Mexico produces and exports but they are not in OPEC. Oil is cheap until the market is fractioned, developement is constrained, refining is frowned upon, and the product is heavily taxed. Oh yea... like we do here.

Mexico produces and exports but they are not in OPEC. Oil is cheap until the market is fractioned, developement is constrained, refining is frowned upon, and the product is heavily taxed. Oh yea... like we do here.

That is about the most succinct description I've heard yet. I would add in there somewhere something like "end product is over regulated,"