What fluids to use for REAL cold weather???
What fluids to use for REAL cold weather???
I'm driving to fairbanks ak where it get's to -50 & -60 deg. f regularly. I'm trying to figure out what engine oil, xmsn oil, front & rear diff oil, & transfer case oil to use. I bought Rotella synthetic 5W-40 for the engine & Valvoline Durablend synthetic 80W-90 for everything else. Not sure if that's a good one to use.
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stock tranny fluid, or amsoil mtg. Amsoil atf in the t-case, amsoil 75w90 in the diffs, amsoil atf in the PS system, and esso XD3 0W40 in the engine.
I have run this combination in mine since new, and 202,000km. In the summer, I go over to XD3 15W40 in the engine, I change oil quite often, and it gets a little spendy to go 0w40 year round.
I have run this combination in mine since new, and 202,000km. In the summer, I go over to XD3 15W40 in the engine, I change oil quite often, and it gets a little spendy to go 0w40 year round.
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Ditto what Dartmouth said:
Make sure you run a thinner than normal oil, because even at "operating" temp the oil isn't getting up to operating temp, hence most oil will be too thick-- ESPECIALLY at startup.
If it's for a short OCI, I'd consider a 5w-30 or 0w-30, even. I'd do that, then change the oil back to regular stuff when you got down to normal temps.
Id go full synthetic in the diffs and go a little thinner. 75w-90 is plenty thick, even towing heavy in bitter cold temps. You'll never get the diff hot enough to need the 140 wt diff lube under those conditions. I personally use Redline Shockproof lightweight. Awesome stuff.
Aside from fluid choice, there are other things you can do to really help your truck in bitter cold temps:
1) Remove the fan. Even towing, you won't need it in bitter cold temps and it helps a TON with warmup times.
2) Use a winter front or block off the radiator somehow-- at least partially. Be sure that you are symmetrical relative to the fan hub when you do this so that you don't create sideways stress on the fan hub and water pump. I hope this makes sense-- if not, I can explain further.
3) Plug in early and often.
4) If you don't have an exhaust brake, getting one installed will help with winter heating a TON. Being able to turn on the brake and let it idle against it will drive your EGTs up to 600 or so (compared to 250 for cold winter idle) and help prevent carbon accumulation that comes from excessively low EGT.
5) Consolidate trips to reduce the number of cold starts.
Justin
Make sure you run a thinner than normal oil, because even at "operating" temp the oil isn't getting up to operating temp, hence most oil will be too thick-- ESPECIALLY at startup.
If it's for a short OCI, I'd consider a 5w-30 or 0w-30, even. I'd do that, then change the oil back to regular stuff when you got down to normal temps.
Id go full synthetic in the diffs and go a little thinner. 75w-90 is plenty thick, even towing heavy in bitter cold temps. You'll never get the diff hot enough to need the 140 wt diff lube under those conditions. I personally use Redline Shockproof lightweight. Awesome stuff.
Aside from fluid choice, there are other things you can do to really help your truck in bitter cold temps:
1) Remove the fan. Even towing, you won't need it in bitter cold temps and it helps a TON with warmup times.
2) Use a winter front or block off the radiator somehow-- at least partially. Be sure that you are symmetrical relative to the fan hub when you do this so that you don't create sideways stress on the fan hub and water pump. I hope this makes sense-- if not, I can explain further.
3) Plug in early and often.
4) If you don't have an exhaust brake, getting one installed will help with winter heating a TON. Being able to turn on the brake and let it idle against it will drive your EGTs up to 600 or so (compared to 250 for cold winter idle) and help prevent carbon accumulation that comes from excessively low EGT.
5) Consolidate trips to reduce the number of cold starts.
Justin
stock tranny fluid, or amsoil mtg. Amsoil atf in the t-case, amsoil 75w90 in the diffs, amsoil atf in the PS system, and esso XD3 0W40 in the engine.
I have run this combination in mine since new, and 202,000km. In the summer, I go over to XD3 15W40 in the engine, I change oil quite often, and it gets a little spendy to go 0w40 year round.
I have run this combination in mine since new, and 202,000km. In the summer, I go over to XD3 15W40 in the engine, I change oil quite often, and it gets a little spendy to go 0w40 year round.
Who knows, maybe we could call Al himself and find out

I was looking on the website on how he started and when it first came out it was spelled AMZOIL after Al. They later changed it to AMSOIL as in American synthetic oil.
I guess were both right.
Amsoil makes a NV4500 only lube called MTG GL-4, beware because they make a plain GL-4 gear lube that is not compatable the 4500.
In case your in a cave and didn't know here is a linky
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/mtg.aspx
In case your in a cave and didn't know here is a linky
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/mtg.aspx
Amsoil makes a NV4500 only lube called MTG GL-4, beware because they make a plain GL-4 gear lube that is not compatable the 4500.
In case your in a cave and didn't know here is a linky
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/mtg.aspx
In case your in a cave and didn't know here is a linky
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/mtg.aspx
You should search better before posting things like this.
Whos in the cave now?



