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Old 04-12-2010, 09:42 AM
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Did Sport Headlight Conversion - Many Questions!

Got the lights off ebay from headlightsdepot.
Got the wiring kit from suvlights.com

Took a few hours but we got everything installed and connected.

First test:

Low Beam:

high beam indicator on
both bulbs on using low beam filament
beam pattern as seen on wall of garage looks like high

High Beam:

high beam indicator off
both bulbs on using high beam filament
beam pattern as seen on wall of garage looks like low & high

As far as I can tell there's no way to hook anything up incorrectly.

Is this right?? The only thing that seems correct is that the right filaments are on when they should be - everything else is backwards!!!!!!
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Sounds to me like you may have received the wrong harness from SUVLights. It happened to me once. As far as I can recall, with their new setup all four relays are the same (they were not with their old setup). You might want to give a close look at them just to make sure.
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Originally Posted by mishkaya
Sounds to me like you may have received the wrong harness from SUVLights. It happened to me once. As far as I can recall, with their new setup all four relays are the same (they were not with their old setup). You might want to give a close look at them just to make sure.
All four relays are the same. I guess the only thing about the harness that isn't as stated in the description is the fact the the hi beam indicator does not work properly. Their description does state that both bulbs should be on during low beam operation. I've been studying the wiring diagram in the dodge shop manual and can't figure out how the indicator can be working opposite the way it should.

I guess my real issue right now is why the beam patter seems reversed. On hi beam it lights up more towards the ground as if the headlight itself was upside down.
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you do not want all 4 bulbs on with low beam. i thought i did at first - until i drove in foggy weather. the inner bulbs in low beam operation where shooting quite high and made visibility horrible in foggy condition.

luckily though - when i built my harness, i built it so that i could have all 4 bulbs on during low beam operation. i ran the wires in such a way that all i need to do to turn off the inners in low beam is to remove the 5-pin relay and replace it with a 4-pin relay (disconnects the circuit to the inners during low beam operation). if the current relays are 5-pin, then try replacing them with 4-pin and see what you get . . .

as for the high beam indicator. if you gaven't sone so already, and if your truck has a DRL module - just unplug it. it is located on the driver inner fender under the brake system components. if it still does not correct the problem, then a jumper wire can be added to two pins of the plug (harness side) to complete a certain circuit. i forget which two pins, but a search on heremay yield a good result . . .

how are you determining the 'right filaments'? i confirmed this by having a helper repeatedly flick the high beams to low beams over and over while looking at the bulbs themselves. took a long time and hurt the eyes, but i know for a fact it is correct.

i may still have some more advice - but atrt with this and see where you get . . .
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Originally Posted by Doj Dewd
you do not want all 4 bulbs on with low beam. i thought i did at first - until i drove in foggy weather. the inner bulbs in low beam operation where shooting quite high and made visibility horrible in foggy condition.

luckily though - when i built my harness, i built it so that i could have all 4 bulbs on during low beam operation. i ran the wires in such a way that all i need to do to turn off the inners in low beam is to remove the 5-pin relay and replace it with a 4-pin relay (disconnects the circuit to the inners during low beam operation). if the current relays are 5-pin, then try replacing them with 4-pin and see what you get . . .

as for the high beam indicator. if you gaven't sone so already, and if your truck has a DRL module - just unplug it. it is located on the driver inner fender under the brake system components. if it still does not correct the problem, then a jumper wire can be added to two pins of the plug (harness side) to complete a certain circuit. i forget which two pins, but a search on heremay yield a good result . . .

how are you determining the 'right filaments'? i confirmed this by having a helper repeatedly flick the high beams to low beams over and over while looking at the bulbs themselves. took a long time and hurt the eyes, but i know for a fact it is correct.

i may still have some more advice - but atrt with this and see where you get . . .
I'm not 100% sure since I'm not at home but I don't think I have DRL's. It's a 1997 2500 and I thought they didn't come with them but I'll check tonight.

I would agree on the hi beam. I don't have the wiring diagram for the harness from suvlights.com but I think I can just disconnect the low beam on the inner bulb so I have only the outer bulbs during low beam. It doesn't make sense to have them both on since the inner bulbs should be aimed much higher and you would have to aim the whole assembly back down so as to not blind oncoming traffic during low beam. If you aim it back down, now the low beam is aimed too low.

All four bulbs do get brighter on hi beam. That I confirmed. The real perplexing part is that during hi beam the pattern gets brighter down low! This must have something to do with the design of the reflector in the lamp.
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Well, I managed to figure out what the problem was. One of the harnesses from suvlights.com was wired incorrectly. Must have got a Friday afternooner.

A little bit of soldering and back up and running correctly.
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good to hear . . .

now how do you like it?
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Originally Posted by Doj Dewd
good to hear . . .

now how do you like it?
I still need to adjust the aim a little but overall they are a huge improvement of the stock lights. My old setup had one new lens and one very old and yellowed lens.
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