morkable

I thought maybe I would start a new one, so it would be easier to figure stuff out.

Now, here is my dilema, I am still on the fence as to stick build or get a futresteel (or the like) building... to be honest the biggest problem I am seeing with the steel (or possible percieved problem) is the insulation deal,, do you think a person can insulate them to an acceptable level for our climate?

Lary Ellis (Top)

Have you looked into a pole barn on a floating slab? That is the way I think I am going. No matter which way you go, you can insulate it as necessary.

morkable

To be honest I havent really even thought about a pole barn,, what would the advantage/disadvantage be?
One thing about where I live insulation is very very important

Busboy

What I described to you in my first post on the last thread was a pole barn, I just called it a post and beam because a pole barn often uses round old telephone poles, a 6X6 pressure treated is much nicer to work with. The roof is insulated with blown in or batts and the walls are strapped horizontally on either side of the post to leave a 6 inch cavity that is filled with batts. Don't use OSB for the ceiling inside it warps all over the place.

Drill the holes and set the posts. pour the floor then build the roof in sections on the floor and crane into position, brace and finish the strapping for the roof and sheet with cut to length sheets. They really are so simple and cheap to build. We have mostly used the cannonball track as it is far superior, we have run the doors down inside one wall, straight across the front and across the front outside the building sidewalls, that one gets tricky in high wind. You can also use a bifold door hangar style. For the doors we used 1 1/2 inch 100 wall for a frame and use the metal sheeting for strength and rigidity, rubber belting across the bottom, spray foam or glue sheet insulation to the inside.

morkable

I talked to a fellow from Future Steel today,, they have a 40w x 21h x 56l shop that I could get for 25k delivered.. and it would be 8600 for r 13 insulation or 12300 for r20 insulation. This is basically a 3 wall system, I would still have to make an end wall with my overhead doors etc. What do you guys think?

winkdemon

thats a pretty good price . my buddy in ontario has one of those buildings , there easy to put up and seem to last. we did it close to 10 years ago still looks good

morkable

Rob, did he get the insulation from them?

winkdemon

no we spray foamed the hole thing , then put plywood over the hole thing , and it has in floor heat

morkable

The guy phoned back today,, they are in a serious rush, he dropped the price to 20000. LOL,, seeing as i dont have the money right now, I cant wait to see what they will sell it for when I actually have the money.

Rob, do you know roughly how much that spray foam was?

Diesel Dave2

When is the house warming party...Kevin....

morkable

Well it will be a bit Dave,, we wont actually be moving in till next summer believe it or not

Dieselbuilder

A steel building is still going to be cold no matter what you do in that part of the neighborhood 2x6 wood frame will be the best

morkable

I did some calculating last night, and just using the normal prices off of the totem website, I can build a 40 x 60 x 16 shop up to the point of putting siding etc on for around 20 grand (not including concrete) That is with 2x6 walls. So I definately am going to go that direction. I cant see the reason to go steel if it is close to the same price as stick built.

Question, would you go with just a slab floor, or would you go with a 1 foot foundation wall and then pour the floor later?

Tate

You may want to check into codes for the county you are building in. I know Rockyview is worse than the cities for building codes and regs. I had to put a 4' deep foundation wall for my garage. Yours being twice the size and close to twice the height, I'd think they may require it, or possibly something engineered.

morkable

I will check into that Tate... but from what I have been told they are fairly lieniant there... but I will definately check into it before I build