Trailer > 10,000 pounds
01-12-2007, 04:11 PM
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Rusty, I don't remember the annual safety inspections in any of the paperwork, regs or discussions with TXDot, the county or DPS when we got our shop-made custom GN registered, titled and inspected...
does that apply to all trailers in excess of 4500# GVW?
does that apply to all trailers in excess of 4500# GVW?
01-12-2007, 06:00 PM
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as far as getting inside rig and saying its commerical dont think that one would stick if you fought it but money wise not worth it .my trailer has comm. tags now because it is over 4000lbs truck dont never been stopped with this rig yet and trailer does have ads on out side .
01-12-2007, 06:07 PM
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This is not just a Georgia law, it is federal law. If the states don't enforce it they will lose federal funds. RV's are exempt from this but they will probably find a way to get money out of them too. Have a friend that delivers his goods in a horse trailer, stops at all scales, and has never had a problem.
01-12-2007, 06:14 PM
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once a year the drag strip i race at has a trooper come in and answer quetions on this subject and inform us of diffrent law changes. ill ask him some of these questions and let you know from a ohio state trooper. you know the heart less one lol
01-12-2007, 06:52 PM
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01-13-2007, 03:43 AM
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Now that's the way to answer a question about regulations - give the regulation number for reference . There's way too many BS answers posted here saying what people heard or think or some DOT cop said . Don't believe anything unless it's backed by a reference to the exact regulation . Over at expeditorsonline.com they're rehashing the issue of needing motel receipts if you don't have a DOT sleeper . No one has come up with a regulation saying you have to sleep when off duty . They say auditors ask for the receipts .
01-13-2007, 05:40 PM
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Georgia is now enforcing the cdl for a trailer over 10,000 even if the combination is under 26,000. Georgia doing that means that Alabama will also as the laws here are a copy of Georgia.
That is a gvwr of 10,000 or more. An acquaintence just received a ticket for a two car hauler that was empty. This has always been the law, but it was hot enforced here.
That is a gvwr of 10,000 or more. An acquaintence just received a ticket for a two car hauler that was empty. This has always been the law, but it was hot enforced here.
According to the Georgia.Gov web site, the requirements for a CDL are the same as every other state. Page 1-1 clearly states that if the combo weighs less than 26,001 pounds you do not need a CDL.
http://www.dds.ga.gov/docs/forms/CDLmanual.pdf
01-13-2007, 06:51 PM
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Are you trying to insinuate that my ex wives, boyfriends, brothers, fiancee, would tell a lie? goodness... say it isn't true! Love you too, brother. I have seen the ticket, and no i am not chasing to Georgia to get the legal info. Might update you when I see him again. Might not, don't really care to defend myself. I said what I said, take it or leave it. I have a class A, its no matter to me, just tried to give a tip.
01-14-2007, 06:22 AM
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Are you trying to insinuate that my ex wives, boyfriends, brothers, fiancee, would tell a lie? goodness... say it isn't true! Love you too, brother. I have seen the ticket, and no i am not chasing to Georgia to get the legal info. Might update you when I see him again. Might not, don't really care to defend myself. I said what I said, take it or leave it. I have a class A, its no matter to me, just tried to give a tip.
01-14-2007, 11:02 AM
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Sorry, didn't mean to offend. I'm just saying your aquaintence is giving you false info or else there is more to the story. I think the give away would be if they let him pull the trailer after giving him the ticket. In Wyoming and Montana, and I'm sure every where else, if you require a CDL DOT makes you unhook and bring in a CDL driver to take the trailer away.
01-14-2007, 12:42 PM
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Rick it could have been a rookie cop that got carried away, there was a race situation. If so it will be thrown out of court. One other point, I only mentioned Georgia and Alabama because if you are legal to drive in your state, you are still legal in Georgia. Down the road a week or a couple, I will see him again as I generally do. I am also curious, it would have had to be a change. I forget the county but it was on the southeast beltway where they are especially hard on trucks. The information that was presented on this thread was very clear on it, can't argue that. I certainly have no desire to put bad info out.
The Federal regs say nothing about gvwr of the trailer but most states have added that. Of course, realistically, getting a cdl is not a big deal nor is it expensive.
The Federal regs say nothing about gvwr of the trailer but most states have added that. Of course, realistically, getting a cdl is not a big deal nor is it expensive.
01-17-2007, 07:58 PM
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Haulin,
I appreciate the tip and I have checked with NC DMV Enforcement and the Feds and if I stay under 26K and am NOT FOR HIRE, I am not coinsidered commercail in their eyes. If I was hauling other peoples cars for money or cargo for money then I would be considered commercial...that is their definition.
If I go over 26k then I am in trouble. Also the truck is tagged 26K and the trailer is tagged as well. No dealer plates on either one. I do have a Classified A endorsement for trailers over 10K.
I am not doubting you, but I really do not want to get a CDL for a number of reasons but the main reason is the assumption on the road that if you are a CDL licensed driver you need Commercail insurance which is rediculous and very expensive for someone that is only part time.
What it comes down to is the law is so vaste and vague that it is up to interpretation on the roadside. If the Feds and states would get together and decide on one set of rules it would make everything much easier. We are one country and since the roads dont stop at the state borders they should all share the smae rules of the road... more common sense wasted on a Government that has none.
I appreciate the tip and I have checked with NC DMV Enforcement and the Feds and if I stay under 26K and am NOT FOR HIRE, I am not coinsidered commercail in their eyes. If I was hauling other peoples cars for money or cargo for money then I would be considered commercial...that is their definition.
If I go over 26k then I am in trouble. Also the truck is tagged 26K and the trailer is tagged as well. No dealer plates on either one. I do have a Classified A endorsement for trailers over 10K.
I am not doubting you, but I really do not want to get a CDL for a number of reasons but the main reason is the assumption on the road that if you are a CDL licensed driver you need Commercail insurance which is rediculous and very expensive for someone that is only part time.
What it comes down to is the law is so vaste and vague that it is up to interpretation on the roadside. If the Feds and states would get together and decide on one set of rules it would make everything much easier. We are one country and since the roads dont stop at the state borders they should all share the smae rules of the road... more common sense wasted on a Government that has none.
01-18-2007, 12:02 AM
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Haulin,
What it comes down to is the law is so vaste and vague that it is up to interpretation on the roadside. If the Feds and states would get together and decide on one set of rules it would make everything much easier. We are one country and since the roads dont stop at the state borders they should all share the smae rules of the road... more common sense wasted on a Government that has none.
What it comes down to is the law is so vaste and vague that it is up to interpretation on the roadside. If the Feds and states would get together and decide on one set of rules it would make everything much easier. We are one country and since the roads dont stop at the state borders they should all share the smae rules of the road... more common sense wasted on a Government that has none.
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Haulin,
I appreciate the tip and I have checked with NC DMV Enforcement and the Feds and if I stay under 26K and am NOT FOR HIRE, I am not coinsidered commercail in their eyes. If I was hauling other peoples cars for money or cargo for money then I would be considered commercial...that is their definition.
If I go over 26k then I am in trouble. Also the truck is tagged 26K and the trailer is tagged as well. No dealer plates on either one. I do have a Classified A endorsement for trailers over 10K.
I am not doubting you, but I really do not want to get a CDL for a number of reasons but the main reason is the assumption on the road that if you are a CDL licensed driver you need Commercail insurance which is rediculous and very expensive for someone that is only part time.
What it comes down to is the law is so vaste and vague that it is up to interpretation on the roadside. If the Feds and states would get together and decide on one set of rules it would make everything much easier. We are one country and since the roads dont stop at the state borders they should all share the smae rules of the road... more common sense wasted on a Government that has none.
I appreciate the tip and I have checked with NC DMV Enforcement and the Feds and if I stay under 26K and am NOT FOR HIRE, I am not coinsidered commercail in their eyes. If I was hauling other peoples cars for money or cargo for money then I would be considered commercial...that is their definition.
If I go over 26k then I am in trouble. Also the truck is tagged 26K and the trailer is tagged as well. No dealer plates on either one. I do have a Classified A endorsement for trailers over 10K.
I am not doubting you, but I really do not want to get a CDL for a number of reasons but the main reason is the assumption on the road that if you are a CDL licensed driver you need Commercail insurance which is rediculous and very expensive for someone that is only part time.
What it comes down to is the law is so vaste and vague that it is up to interpretation on the roadside. If the Feds and states would get together and decide on one set of rules it would make everything much easier. We are one country and since the roads dont stop at the state borders they should all share the smae rules of the road... more common sense wasted on a Government that has none.