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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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New to gooseneck, any advice would be appreciated!

Well, the time has come. I bought this truck for a reason.

I'm going to pick up probably 3 M880s (older military 5/4 ton dodge trucks) that weigh about 4,700 lbs each.

Anyway I'm picking them up out of state so it's gonna be a trip.

I need to get a good gooseneck hook up for my truck and find an appropriate trailer to rent. Also need to hook up a brake controller. Truck is the shortbed in my sig.

Any advice would be appreciated.

So:

1)What hitch is a good value?
2)What brake controller?
3)Where should I rent a trailer?
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 02:56 PM
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1. I prefer the turnover ball.
2. Prodigy
3. No idea

*But make sure the trailer has breakaway box for the brakes.
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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Turnover ball is a brand? I think there is one that adjusts right? Considering I have a short bed.

I can probably look around and find a trailer.
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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Turnover Ball is the hitch made by B&W. Link here. http://www.turnoverball.com/

No adjustment on gooseneck hitches. I have this hitch on my 01 short bed.

Here is the link for the controler. I also have this controller. http://www.tekonsha.com/prodig.html

Make sure the trailer has brakes and a break away box. A load that heavy really needs to be on a trailer with brakes on all axles.
Take it easy and don't whale on it to hard especially if you don't have gauges.

What part of Texas are you in?
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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Thinking that should be in the neighborhood of 20K lbs.... That's if I can fit 3 on a trailer. They are reg cab long beds.


Thanks!
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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B&W is what I have. I don't think you will need it but they have a 4" extender for the turn over it brings the rating down to 20,000lbs.

They have all the accessories listed on the site listed above.
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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I'm thinking 3 might be a bit much to haul. I might try to figure it out though.


Dimensions
Length: 218¾", all models
Height, M880: 73¾"
Height, M870: 70¾"
Width: 79½", all models
Ground Clearance: 8" loaded, 8½ unloaded, all models


Weights*
M880: 7747 pounds

* Payload included weight of crew.
Figuring without crew deduct 1000lbs from each truck?
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RAF
B&W is what I have. I don't think you will need it but they have a 4" extender for the turn over it brings the rating down to 20,000lbs.

They have all the accessories listed on the site listed above.
Thanks again RAF!
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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Joe T:
1. Even with a 40' trailer, you would get two, not three, based upon the dimensions you provide.
2. A 40' trailer might weigh in around 9-10K #. So if the two trucks are, say 6K each, and the trailer is 10K = 16,000#. With a transfer to the pin of 25% (estimate), you'd have 4,000# going to the pin of the truck - check your GVWR to see what the rear axle rating is, and what weight could be added to the truck. Do you know the curb weight (truck full fuel, you behind the wheel, no trailer) ?
3. That would leave 12,000# weight on the trailer axles. So a three axle trailer with even "light" 5200# axles would carry the weight.
4. With a 2500, make sure you are informed about your ratings.
Best of luck
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Bonshawman
Joe T:
1. Even with a 40' trailer, you would get two, not three, based upon the dimensions you provide.
2. A 40' trailer might weigh in around 9-10K #. So if the two trucks are, say 6K each, and the trailer is 10K = 16,000#. With a transfer to the pin of 25% (estimate), you'd have 4,000# going to the pin of the truck - check your GVWR to see what the rear axle rating is, and what weight could be added to the truck. Do you know the curb weight (truck full fuel, you behind the wheel, no trailer) ?
3. That would leave 12,000# weight on the trailer axles. So a three axle trailer with even "light" 5200# axles would carry the weight.
4. With a 2500, make sure you are informed about your ratings.
Best of luck
One truck is without a bed so I could just pull the wheels, let it sit on the axle and run the cab of the one behind it up onto the rear frame...

I'm assuming the front truck should be pulled on backwards and the next one forward? That would keep most weight just aft of the trailer axles. If I got the third one on there I'd just run it up onto the bedless one in the middle. That would knock 8 feet off the length plus the bed of the rear one could overhang off the back. So I could subtract 10 feet. Be about 45 feet.

I'd assume 6K each which would be 24K + 10K = 34K. Might be too much to pull that much of a distance. I'm going to have to sleep on it. My truck should be in the neighborhood of 7500lbs.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:22 AM
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B&W Hitch, Prodigy Controller, A local CM Trailer Dealer
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 05:41 AM
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I have the turnover ball (B&W) on mine and it's a great hitch. I like the Prodigy controller, but like my P3 even better (both are from Tekonsha). I'm not sure where you can rent a gooseneck car hauler such as what you require.

Personally though, I think you're talking about a mighty heavy load for that 2500. I'd probably make two trips in that scenario.
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe T
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Thinking that should be in the neighborhood of 20K lbs.... That's if I can fit 3 on a trailer. They are reg cab long beds.
Thanks!
You gonna get three of them on one load?
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Dieseldude4x4
You gonna get three of them on one load?
Was going too pull 2 or 3. Didn't win the bid though. Keeping my eye out for 2-3 M880s or a couple CUCV chevys though.

The weight is less than what is advertised above because that includes passengers and payload. Those trucks were designed to haul troops and cargo.... So the weight advertised reflects that.
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 07:58 AM
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Have you considered have them hauled for you ? By the time you spend $ 450 for hitch, trailer rental, brake controller, installations, fuel, etc. you might find somebody with a semi that can haul all 3 for same money or less, and you will save the wear and tear on your truck.

Check sites like Uship.com, you can find all sorts of haulers, at a price you can decide
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