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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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I have same problem Lizman was describing in another post. My stock 06 QC 4WD sits really high. Even with adjusting front post height my goosenceck trailer is about 8 inches taller (as measured from level ground) in front and that really is not enough clearance for bed height except on level ground. Bigger wheels and tires would not be enough, besides, Friday I just put new 10 ply's on. All I know to do is raise the trailer up off axles? I'm sure other people have this problem, I wonder what they do? It puts WAY too much wt on rear tires and rear axle.Trailer is 16 ? or 20 ft box Sundowner. Got to do something, what do yall suggest? Thanks for any tips or advice.
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 10:36 PM
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If the trailer is a store-bought horse-trailer, it either has those stupid torsion axles, or four-inch drop-axles with good old slipper springs.

If the later, you can ditch the drop axles, in favor of much stronger straight axles.

This will give you a four inch increase in trailer clearance, stop most of the rear-end dragging on un-even ground, and eliminate most bent axle troubles.

If you have torsion axles, then you are gonna need a torch and welder, a set of slipper springs, a set of hangers, and a set of straight axles.

I convert any trailer I get ahold of to straight axles as soon as I can.

I will not buy a new trailer with anything else.

I haul horses and cattle, all the time, and they won't even notice the extra four inches of height when they hop in the trailer.
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 11:29 PM
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Ya Iam with Bear on this one my 77 stock trailer is too close for comfort on my pickup box and i have the smashed corners from backing up to the loading chute to load the cattle out of the feed lot seems my older trailer sits more up wards because it was meant to be hauled at the then time lower fords n chevys. My solution is flat bed and now i dint got to worry about it any more and plus i also can haul way more hay with the horse trailer on so i can stay away longer and i personally think a flat bed look mo betta then a pickup box but thats the hauler in me LOL
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 01:36 AM
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If your axles have leaf springs with the perches on top you can spacer blocks in, like our trucks have on the rear axle.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 05:10 AM
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It does not have leaf springs. Looks like a wierd setup, square tubing for axles and they are offset and not in center of hub and have some kind of arm going to center of hub.
Sounds like I need to just get rid of this set up? Yes it is store bought sundowner and rear axle is bent upwards from me or previous owner hitting something with it. Thanks guys, anymore thoughts?
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 06:34 AM
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IMO the easiest thing to do would be put a flat bed on and forget about it.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 07:57 AM
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If you will Google gooseneck couplers you might find an answer. I found tubes as short as 28" on the first page of returns.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 08:56 AM
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Weld up a spacer from some 4" rect tube and bolt them or weld them between the torsion axles and the frame of the trailer. I have a couple of trailers with the torsion axles and by looking it should not be that hard, unless they were originaly welded on, then it is torch time......
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 09:10 AM
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I know lots of guys that lowered the rear of their Super Duty F*rd to correct the same problem.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 10:49 AM
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How old is your Sundowner? I noticed with the older trailers most have this problem. I just bought a new Wilson livestock trailer and it sits perfect, on level ground the deck sits level and I can just about walk under the gooseneck (when hooked up) and barely hit my head. Plenty of room with the new truck, and the old Ford I almost have to extend the neck on trailer. I can't tow the old gooseneck with the new Dodge 'cause I'll have the same problem you have.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by nelrod
It does not have leaf springs. Looks like a wierd setup, square tubing for axles and they are offset and not in center of hub and have some kind of arm going to center of hub.
Sounds like I need to just get rid of this set up? Yes it is store bought sundowner and rear axle is bent upwards from me or previous owner hitting something with it. Thanks guys, anymore thoughts?
Yeah, you've got the rubber torsion axles.

Do you have any welding/fabricating skills/equipment?
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 04:08 PM
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Yes it is a 94 sundowner, no I don't have enough skill to do this. It sits on 4 inch tubes welded to axle, that will have to be cut off, guess I'll get someone to check it out and either put different axles under it or raise it up with some square tubing. Totally Rad I don't understand about how a different gooseneck coupler would help it will raise too high and lower tool low already, but maybe your are talking about something different? Thanks for all the insight guys. This is a great site. Oh also yesterday was first time I pulled the trailer with my CTD and all I can say it is one mean truck. all I have is a better flowing muffler. I have a commander and xzt tow module on order, I love this truck. Thanks again, I spend so much time reading on this site my wife asked me was I chatting with someone on Internet, HaHa
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Cowboy45
I just bought a new Wilson livestock trailer.


You lucky dawg.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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I had to put a 6in lift on mine to clear
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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Smile update on g.n.horsetrailer that's too low for my 4WD Dually

Hey guys, a huge trailer place said they would only raise my horse trailer 3 inches and would be 600$ ouch. Local machine shop didn't want to fool with it. A trailer building place locally didn't want to either, but gave me name of a fella, so took trailer to his house where he builds trailers and beds; he said he would do it for max of 200$! Maybe less. I am tickled to find him cause I could tell he knows what he is doing and saw some of his work. BTW he has a '91 ? 6.5L ch. with 275K miles with original engine and trans (auto). Must have been one of best ones, I didn't think they would last that long. Preciate all responses, this is the coolest site I visit on web.
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