need a gooseneck for a day....
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need a gooseneck for a day....
i need to pick up a couple trucks i bought from uncle sam. anyone know where i can rent or borrow about a 30-35ft gooseneck trailer near fresno ca.? i have a car trailer, but didnt plan on winning both trucks. it's either make 2 trips or rent a large trailer. it's from fresno to barstow and back, just over 500 miles. if someone has one that would be willing to let me borrow or rent, i take care of things especially when it belongs to someone else.
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I believe CA is one of those states where you need a CDL "A" to pull a trailer over 10,000 lbs. GVWR . Do you have a CDL "A" ? One option , rent one of the longer U-Hauls with an auto transport trailer . Put one trailer in the box , tow the other .
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Yeah, alot of people don't realize that, but ALL States require a CDL....
Now with that said... read this excerpt from above...
You may want to contact your local DMV, since this is a private use... Your not using this for a living.... That is why anyone can drive and/or tow an RV with out a CDL... We all know they are above the 10,000lb GVWR, but since they are for private use they do not fall under the same laws...
Good Luck and What Kind of trucks did you buy???
CDL Classes for Every State
To be eligible for a CDL, you must have a clean driving record. Federal regulations require you to pass a physical exam every two years. To operate a commercial motor vehicle in interstate commerce, you must be at least 21. Many states allow those as young as 18 to drive commercial vehicles within the state. You must be able to read and speak English well enough to read road signs, prepare reports, and communicate with the public and with law enforcement.
The Act established three separate classes of commercial driver's licenses.
Every state issues licenses in these categories:
Class A: Any combination of vehicles with a gross vehicle weight rating (GWVR) of 26,001 or more pounds, provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
Class B: Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing a vehicle not in excess of 10,000 pounds GVWR.
Class C: Any single vehicle, or combination of vehicles, that does not meet the definition of Class A or Class B, but is either designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver, or is placarded for hazardous materials.
Many states make exceptions for farm vehicles, snow removal vehicles, fire and emergency vehicles, and some military vehicles.
To be eligible for a CDL, you must have a clean driving record. Federal regulations require you to pass a physical exam every two years. To operate a commercial motor vehicle in interstate commerce, you must be at least 21. Many states allow those as young as 18 to drive commercial vehicles within the state. You must be able to read and speak English well enough to read road signs, prepare reports, and communicate with the public and with law enforcement.
The Act established three separate classes of commercial driver's licenses.
Every state issues licenses in these categories:
Class A: Any combination of vehicles with a gross vehicle weight rating (GWVR) of 26,001 or more pounds, provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
Class B: Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing a vehicle not in excess of 10,000 pounds GVWR.
Class C: Any single vehicle, or combination of vehicles, that does not meet the definition of Class A or Class B, but is either designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver, or is placarded for hazardous materials.
Many states make exceptions for farm vehicles, snow removal vehicles, fire and emergency vehicles, and some military vehicles.
To operate a commercial motor vehicle in interstate commerce
Good Luck and What Kind of trucks did you buy???
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yeah, anyone in ca not using it for business can haul up to 26k at a max length of 65ft total length.... no i dont need a special license. It wouldnt matter anyway as i am exempt, what i need is the trailer....
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From: Solvang,ca
Not in NY as long as the GCVW is under 26001 you are fine with a class D, I have papers right off of the NYDMV web sight saying so.
Here is the link
http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/license.htm#about
Hope this helps someone but in CA I don't know.
As to the orignal question, if I remember correctly when I lived in SLO United rents used to have a few long goose trailers for rent, but I have been on the worng coast for 4 years now, but I am moveing back soon.
Jeff
Here is the link
http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/license.htm#about
Hope this helps someone but in CA I don't know.
As to the orignal question, if I remember correctly when I lived in SLO United rents used to have a few long goose trailers for rent, but I have been on the worng coast for 4 years now, but I am moveing back soon.
Jeff
Yeah, alot of people don't realize that, but ALL States require a CDL....
Now with that said... read this excerpt from above...
You may want to contact your local DMV, since this is a private use... Your not using this for a living.... That is why anyone can drive and/or tow an RV with out a CDL... We all know they are above the 10,000lb GVWR, but since they are for private use they do not fall under the same laws...
Good Luck and What Kind of trucks did you buy???
Now with that said... read this excerpt from above...
You may want to contact your local DMV, since this is a private use... Your not using this for a living.... That is why anyone can drive and/or tow an RV with out a CDL... We all know they are above the 10,000lb GVWR, but since they are for private use they do not fall under the same laws...
Good Luck and What Kind of trucks did you buy???
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From: Mississippi Gulf Coast
Blue, I read it and it did not mention commerce vs. non commerce vehicles... I would verfiy that before attempting it...
Usually the guys who get in trouble for stuff like that are the ones who buy a nice truck and trailer and start a "Hot Shot" business... Since they are using their trucks for commerce they have to get a CDL even though the same vehicle and trailer set up does not require a CDL when its for personal non-commerce use...
I got a few friends who are State Troopers and City cops from Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida and North Carolina... and they all said they catch people with that all the time... They told me if a truck is used for Commerce the driver of that truck must have a CDL.... Just my .02
Usually the guys who get in trouble for stuff like that are the ones who buy a nice truck and trailer and start a "Hot Shot" business... Since they are using their trucks for commerce they have to get a CDL even though the same vehicle and trailer set up does not require a CDL when its for personal non-commerce use...
I got a few friends who are State Troopers and City cops from Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida and North Carolina... and they all said they catch people with that all the time... They told me if a truck is used for Commerce the driver of that truck must have a CDL.... Just my .02
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From: Killeen, Tx
They told you wrong, and this subject has been hashed and re-hashed on this forum. As long as your truck GVWR or truck/trailer GCVWR does not exceed 26,000 pounds you can drive commercially without a CDL. Here is a link to your state, but all states commercial laws are the same. http://www.cdl-course.com/faq-ms.html In case you don't know CMV is commercial motor vehicle.
The confusion comes from non-commercial requirements which vary state by state. CA requires a CDL to pull a trailer over 10,000 pounds GVWR.
CA also requires a non-commercial Class A to pull 5th wheel RVs over 15,000 GVWRand TTs over 10,000GVWRhttp://www.dmv.ca.gov/dl/dl_info.htm#CDL
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From: Miami Florida
Some state statutes incorporate the FMCSA wording "in commerce" when defining a commercial vehicle, some states do not. Some states, like my home state of Florida, define a commercial vehicle in three different statutes (vehicle licensing, insurance and uniform traffic) in three different ways. Use may or may not play into it, but it seems that weight always does. On top of that (statutes relating to vehicles) there is the operator's license statutes. Some states have either a varying or no definition of "in commerce", some are vague and say trade or transportation of property (and don't mention "for hire") - it takes a lot of research and double-checking in one's home state. Most state statutes are available on line (usually in the state senate or house of representatives state sites), so find them, print them, read and understand them, and carry a set in your truck.
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From: Alta Loma, CA
CA also requires a non-commercial Class A to pull 5th wheel RVs over 15,000 GVWRand TTs over 10,000GVWRhttp://www.dmv.ca.gov/dl/dl_info.htm#CDL
They require it but I don't know a single person with one nor know of anyone hassle because of it. It's one of those thing where if you use common sense and obey traffic laws they don't hassle you.
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From: Newport News, VA
According to what you posted I DO NOT need a CDL (nor do most other people)
1) class a is if you are over 26000 lbs AND a combo vehicle w/trailer over 10000 lbs
2) class b is a SINGLE vehicle over 26000 lbs OR a single vehicle over 26000 lbs pulling a trailer under 10,000
3) well, i ain't driving no bus
in reply to #1 above........even tho my trailer i rated 14k, I am still under the 26000 limit
in reply to #2 above........I am not driving a single vehicle over 26000 lbs....and the wording "any such vehicle" is there to let someone with a class b drive with a trailer up to 10000 lbs without having to get a class a
so no, I don't need a cdl, and neither do most people...commercial or not
BUT...states do have their own laws that may be different
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Any luck with the trailer and getting the trucks? What did you get? I see you have a m1008 in your sig. We still use them over here in Germany good trucks if you use them right. Where are you at in Fresno? I grew up on the west side about half way to Kerman and went to HS there.
Zoran
Any luck with the trailer and getting the trucks? What did you get? I see you have a m1008 in your sig. We still use them over here in Germany good trucks if you use them right. Where are you at in Fresno? I grew up on the west side about half way to Kerman and went to HS there.
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LOL....then they need to learn how to read
I went over this with the DOT here and that is how they explained it.
if yer over 26,000, it don't matter, but it's the under 26000 lbs where people get confused
they seem to think that because their trailer is over 10k, they have to have a class a, which according to the rules you posted, would only be the case if the total of both is over 26,000.
and as for the class b, it is for a single truck over 26,000, or a single truck over 26,000 pulling a trailer under 10,000
I know the guys who write the tickets sometimes 'interpret' things differently, but in court, the law says what it says, and they can't ticket you for "it's supposed to mean this'