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Old 02-12-2015, 10:10 AM
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Obama Attacks Christianity

Obama Attacks Christianity to Appease Muslims

by Dr. Gary L. Cass

President Obama seems to enjoy throwing Christians under the bus in the name of trying to sound fair. At the National Prayer Breakfast today he reminded people that extremism in the name of in religion isn't exclusive to Islam and has been carried out by Christians as well.

People are very willing to "hijack religion for their own murderous ends. [R]emember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ," Obama said. "In our home country, slavery and Jim Crow all too often was justified in the name of Christ."

So even though Islam is the greatest murderous ideology in the history of the world with at least 250,000,000 dead according to historians, we must not forget Christians have done evil, too.

Here's the error in this flawed argument of moral equivalency. When Muslims commit terrorist acts in the name of Islam, i.e. beheading, kidnapping women and children, assassinating critics, etc., they are simply doing what Mohammed did. This is recorded in the Koran and the other authoritative books of Islam.

When Christians use their religion to justify murder and injustice they are acting diametrically AGAINST the principles of Christianity. According to Obama, "We see ISIL, a brutal vicious death cult that in the name of religion carries out unspeakable acts of barbarism claiming the mantle of religious authority for such actions." Where did they learn to be so vicious?

According to Islam's own account ...

613: Mohammed begins his public preaching in Mecca
622: Mohammad consummates his marriage to a nine-year-old wife.
624: The Nakhla raid begins violence in the name of Islam
624: The Battel of Badr, Muslims attack and defeat the Meccans
624: Mohammed attacks the Qaynuqa Jews and exiles them from Medina.
625: The Battle of Uhud where the pagan Meccans defeats the Muslims
625: The siege and exile from Medina of the Jewish Nadir tribe
627: The Battle of Trench: The Jewish Qurayzak tribe betrays Mohammed
627: Mohammed beheads the males of the Qurayzak tribe and enslaves the women and children.
628: Mohammed and the Muslims besiege Khaybar oasis and exile the Jews from it
630: Mohammed and the Muslims conquer Mecca
630: The Battle of Hunayn and Mohammed becomes the master of Arabia
630: Warfare against the Christians
Three people are assassinated on Mohammed's orders for making fun of him; Abu Afak; Asma bint Marwan (Poetess); Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf.

CONTRAST:

Number of wars Christ led: 0
Number of people Christ killed: 0
Number of women and children Christ enslaved: 0
Number of assassinations ordered by Christ: 0
Number of children and women sexually exploited by Christ: 0
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I am not a religious person but do try to follow the basic precepts of religions In general.
Before making sweeping statements about the Christian religion you should have a look at the old testament, For instance, the story of Elisha and the bears. Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him, “Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!” 24 When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number. 25 And he went from there to Mount Carmel, and from there he returned to Samaria.
Or how about Sodom and Gomorrah where Lot offered his Virgin daughters to the crowd and the Lord eventually destroyed everyone including Lot's wife because she looked back at the destruction while the chosen few were fleeing.
I am not defending Obama or terrorists, just saying you should get all your facts instead of cherry picking what you want to use as examples.
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In both your examples, God did the destruction. In Islam, Mohammed and his followers did the destruction.

The Bible records a lot of things that aren't right, like lying, murder, polygamy, etc. and that is obvious if you pay attention. Another thing to take into consideration is that if God is the supreme creator as is claimed, then what man can understand his mind unless he explains it? Fortunately, for things that matter, he does explain things.
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For anyone who cares, here is an admittedly LONG ( 45 Minute ) video that pretty well lays the whole thing out in regards to who was and is the aggressor.

This guy is a scientist, not a religious hack, and he relies on archaeological digs for his information.

It very CLEARLY lays out who did what, and it ain't pretty.

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The scary fact is at the current birth rate of Muslims in the world that they will take over the world in just 50 years. I'm glad I will not be around then but my grand kids will be.

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My wife and I always joke around when people start talking in different lanuages. We were at the hospital waiting to see our birth room and where it will all take place.

Getting there we ended up near three amish people and about 5 or 6 muslims in the same room. I downloaded a translator app which translates language into english. Put my earbud in. The amish were speaking german and talking about how they need to get a new mule for the drop plow. The muslims were speaking arabic and the older guy was telling the young kid that he needs to stop inpregnating his sister, this is the third time. The kid clearly stated they never paid a hospital bill but the place keeps servicing them for free. The older muslim then said if you keep going you'll be as poor and low as the amish. To my surprise the amish guy started to speak arabic, stating "if you bolish my people then you must know our god something. The app didn't catch everything but it did a good job that allowed you to make sense of it.

Crazy stuff out there, but if you're clever you can figure it out.
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Along these same lines, here is something that was sent to me yesterday;


An interesting post on the Spectator website well worth reading, will give you cause to think!

Sad but true….!

The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims
The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Musiims
The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims'
The Charlie Hebdo cartoonist assassins are also Muslims

Think of it:

Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Christians = No Problem
Christians living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem

Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
Muslims living with Christians = Problem
Muslims living with Jews = Problem
Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
Muslims living with Baha'is = Problem
Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
Muslims living with Atheists = Problem

MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM

They’re not happy in Gaza
They're not happy in Egypt
They're not happy in Libya
They're not happy in Morocco
They're not happy in Iran
They're not happy in Iraq
They're not happy in Yemen
They're not happy in Afghanistan
They're not happy in Pakistan
They're not happy in Syria
They're not happy in Lebanon
They're not happy in Nigeria
They're not happy in Kenya
They're not happy in Sudan

So where do they live

They like to live in Australia
They like to live in England
They like to live in Belgium
They like to live in France
They like to live in Italy
They like to live in Germany
They like to live in Sweden
They like to live in the USA
They like to live in Canada
They like to live in Norway
They like to live in India
They like to live in almost every country that is not Islamic!

And who do they blame for the problem?
Not Islam...
Not their leadership...
Not themselves...
THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY LIKE TO LIVE IN !

And they want to change the countries they're happy to live in ...
TO BE LIKE THE COUNTRIES THEY CAME FROM WHERE THEY WERE UNHAPPY !

Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
ISIS: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
AND A LOT MORE !!!!!!!


Think about it.......!
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But singling them out for increased scrutiny at a checkpoint is "Profiling".
So instead the TSA gropes Gramma, and kids in wheelchairs to prevent terrorism.
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"With or without it [religion], you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.”

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Lots of atheist and agnostic nutcases out there killing for no religious reason.
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