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Old 09-28-2017, 01:06 PM
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How do you define affordable?

As to health care, certainly not the same way I do. I call BS on the "affordable" part of obummer care. Just out of curiosity, I jumped through all the hoops to get a price on obummer care health insurance. Compared cost wise to what I am getting through work, bottom line bummer care costs more and covers less. Higher monthly cost and higher, almost double out of pocket limit. Co-pay, deductible, drug, office visits the same. Still the same PPO problems, if there not in "the network" which a lot of places in AK aren't better get the vaseline out and take out a loan. They're offering cheaper monthly plans, but at much higher deductible, out of pocket, and increasing co-pays. Fine for the rich who have cash reserves. But what about us lower middle class the left pretends to protect? Start checking and see where their money is invested.
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My health insurance was sporadic throughout the Obama years, because tradesman work was sporadic and it was tied to hours worked for qualified employers.

Since I refused to become a socialist and submit to mandatory supplementary insurance, I was forced to pay thousands in penalties with my taxes every year.

For the record, when I needed doctor care during my uninsured times, I paid cash. That's what savings are for, and I don't need a nanny to do it for me, for a price, no less.

So, I paid penalties to the government despite never asking them for a dime for my own responsibilities. Still amazed what this country has become.

The entire process was incredibly complicated anyway. I didn't know what to do if I DID want to submit to the mandatory socialism.
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At least one of the reasons the prices are higher compared to work is two fold one work provides a portion of the payment in fact they have to by law now. They cannot charge I think it is more than 9% of your gross (employee only is law) and since they cant discriminate based on pay they sort of have to base that 9% off of the lowest paid person. So at least for yourself you are getting something. Secondly the insurance market and the feds want the state health care system to be more expensive than what you can get from an employer and perhaps even the open market so that it is used as a last resort. Part of the intent of the forced insurance is so that you have it even if it is only for catastrophic use. They (the state) would rather you have a 10-20k deductible and insurance pick up the rest than no insurance at all where they get nothing for it.
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So we know Obummercare is a joke. Now how do we deal with all the supposed Republicans that specifically ran on repealing the joke for 7 years, and then vote essentially for it.
Moore will be a start.
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