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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 12:17 AM
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Turbo, DV, GSK Recommendation Needed??

Hi to all,

Been some time since I have posted. My original mods have become a little boring for me now. Want to take the next step. Looking at three areas of modification...1) Turbo 2) Delivery valves 3) Governor kit

1) Without a doubt, I don't have enough Turbo. I am pushing 30-35 psi with my stock turbo, and I have a lot more room to move my plate, but all I will do is pour more smoke out the back. So, some time ago, I had decided a B-1 was the way to go, but I have been away for a while, and don't know if things have changed...any recommendations?

2) Stock DV's are probably in need of change also...what would make for a good setup, to avoid having to change anything I have already done, and work well with the recommended turbo?

3) I would like to go to a 3K kit...or shim it...as everything I had read before, says it makes for a whole new feel of the truck...your thoughts?

Looking to take my current setup to the next level!
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 08:02 AM
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get the 3gsk that will make the most difference. i would go with an htt 62 or 64 with the SS housing for the charger, depending on how far you want to go. i wouldnt do DV, they really create alot of smoke and heat and sometimes are hard to get the truck to idle and run right (it happened to mine) plus there is proof that they dont add much hp if any at all.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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I think 181 dv's would be a good mod.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 06:31 PM
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you difinatly need more air for the DV's like Box5 mentioned the 181's are a good dv they work good with the light injectors anything above that you'll need a bigger turbo that wont be good for towing with the 3.54s. do the real gsk and be done with it just dosnt seem right when someone tries the shim trick dosnt like it and then goes and does the springs. its really hard to suggest a turbo without knowing what you do with the truck.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 07:15 PM
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yeah i wouldn t do the shims. I did and had to buy a new pump when the springs come apart. Just my 2 cents.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 07:54 PM
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You really need a gsk kit.
Turbos, seems the 2 most popular ones are High Tech Turbo and Industrial Injection.
Check out there websites and choose what you want to do.
Dont go any smaller than a 62mm turbo.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MrSuzuki
Hi to all,

Been some time since I have posted. My original mods have become a little boring for me now. Want to take the next step. Looking at three areas of modification...1) Turbo 2) Delivery valves 3) Governor kit

1) Without a doubt, I don't have enough Turbo. I am pushing 30-35 psi with my stock turbo, and I have a lot more room to move my plate, but all I will do is pour more smoke out the back. So, some time ago, I had decided a B-1 was the way to go, but I have been away for a while, and don't know if things have changed...any recommendations?

2) Stock DV's are probably in need of change also...what would make for a good setup, to avoid having to change anything I have already done, and work well with the recommended turbo?

3) I would like to go to a 3K kit...or shim it...as everything I had read before, says it makes for a whole new feel of the truck...your thoughts?

Looking to take my current setup to the next level!
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181s will be an awesome upgrade over your stockers, A b1 turbo is outdated per say, Ud be better off with anything like an S300 or a 62/14 of anything. Industrial injection or HTT... Laser cuts, as i have now are just wayy to much smoke.... really dirty power....

A 4K kit will allow you a bit more RPM room, but since u have a 94, i think it will like the 3K a bit better for ur application. I run a 4K but i seldom see over 3200 RPMS, about the same that you can get with the 3K kit on free revs, fuels hard up to about 2700 rpms, also dependant on the plate that you have...

PS ditch that stock plate.. it sucks... go with at least a 10 i run a 100 and love it tho...

Rick
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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I always seem to miss one vital piece of information when asking a question. I use the truck for 99% driving...no towing.

Per my signature, I have 4" exhaust, 100 plate, and 330 injectors. I know I am short on Turbo, cause I have a ways to go before my plate is all the way forward. Figure I am in the low 300hp range/700+ torque right now.

My goal: Not to have to change injectors, and get to the mid to high 400hp range. I figure larger DV's and a bigger turbo should get me there.

Thus far, a 3kgsk sounds like a must. Now do I go with 181's or 191's, to reach my hp goal? And if I wanted to step up to the 500hp club later down the road, by changing my injectors, which DV might be a good choice now, as to avoid having to change them later?

And then the turbo...? Since my original post, I have done some research, and the opinions vary on every turbo. But any suggestions would help.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 01:36 PM
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the 181's will do fine with a larger injector later on, but if you're gonna go big later then get the 191's and be done with it. on the turbo since you have a 5spd and no towing you can go with like a 62/14 with a 71 mm wheel. either company like II or HTT are a good choice depends how much you want to spend too.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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Clutch1 suggest's a good set-up + with more turbo you can slide your 100 plate to the front....I would however skip the 3000 gsk and go for the 4000 kit.... with a 5spd its nice to have some over-rev IMO.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 01:52 PM
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My only concern with a 4kgsk kit, is there are reports of higher idle...900 plus rpm. Not that this is a real issue with a manual transmission, but is this higher idle an issue every time, or is it a case where the guy needed to make some more adjustments?

I also believe I may need to do something with my valve springs, if I go to a 4kgsk...any truth to that? What rpm will my valve springs begin to float?
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by logskidder
with a 5spd its nice to have some over-rev IMO.
yeah it is, and it helps keep a little lag away with the bigger turbo by shifting higher in the rpms..
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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your safe with the stock spring up until around 32-3300 more than likely you wont ever take it that far and youll be shifting around 2800 but you have the quick response.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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My only concern with a 4kgsk kit, is there are reports of higher idle...900 plus rpm. Not that this is a real issue with a manual transmission, but is this higher idle an issue every time, or is it a case where the guy needed to make some more adjustments?

I also believe I may need to do something with my valve springs, if I go to a 4kgsk...any truth to that? What rpm will my valve springs begin to float?
false claim...

i have a 4K kit and idle at 750.. proper adjustment of the springs and idle got me there..... Im sure i have had valve float with mine, but again, they only start to float above 3400 rpms, how often will u rev that high? pLus with insufficient timing, you will pop and sputter and run out of fuel anyways with the smaller pump....

RIck
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