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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 08:15 AM
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morning report: high idle is nice nice nice! my heater was nice and warm this morning, put the truck in gear and went to work found that the idle is pretty lopey. when driving and coming to a stop the lope gets bad, almost to where it sounds like its going to die although it never did. idleing through the parking lot at work sounded like a top fueler, which sounds cool but will need to be fixed. surging is reduced, pretty much there the same places it always has been but it is reduced. it still pulls hard but doesnt seem to be as responsive (fuel down low) as before but maybe its just me.. again the high idle and turbo timer work but i cant shut them off using the brake pedal. its not a switch because my normal turbo timer and remote start turn of normally with the brake pedal.
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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OK I have to resind my comments on the surging from last night. On my commute in on PL 5-10 the surging was coming on in the same place no matter what speed I was at. It happens at approx half throttle. I can drive around it most times but it was waay evident on my morning commute in today where I spend 90% of my time at half throttle or there abouts. High Idle still activated after 2 minutes but only increased to 900 rpm like last night. I haven't noticed the rough idle, but will pay closer attention on the drive in.
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by lotero
high idle goes to 900 degrees @ 2 minutes, and wont disengage with the brake pedal.
Luis, do you mean that EGTs actually jumped to 900 degrees or did you mean that the engine RPM jumped to 900??
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 09:15 AM
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My truck this morning was exactally like Luis' truck. High idle ramped up to 1200 but had the bad idle lope, turbo timer worked flawless but it went into high idle before the truck shut down. I'm not too sure about shutting my truck down at 1200 rpm? My remote starter and the Adrenaline don't like each other because I have a standard and you have to step on the brake pedal to set it into remote start mode. I can't do this because the adrenaline takes over and doesn't allow me to set the truck so I can use my remote start. The guys with standards and remote starters will know what I'm talking about. The rough idle is still there until I put the truck on PL00, but when the high idle ramps up, the rough idle comes back. Sorry to throw all these quirks at ya Qzilla but this is how my ol' 6 speed is reacting to this program. BTW, the factory 6PL and 10PL work 100% perfect besides the low/mid throttle surge. No weird idle issues there. I think the standard guys with remote starters need a program with no turbo timer, (Not right now but at a later date) so we can put our trucks into remote start mode to fully utilize the high idle. Sorry this one's so long...
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 10:12 AM
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Does your brake pedal kill the TT and High idle if you want it to?

I understand it clashes with your remote start, I just need to see if I am having software issues or if there is something different on the older trucks that we over looked.
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 10:13 AM
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The high idle worked on mine this morning, but only raised the rpm up to about 900. It canceled when I touched the brake. Rough idle was there at the first stop sign (I was on PL08), it didn't happen after that. Surge is still very strong, and gets stronger the higher power levels, but is there at all levels.

The Adrenaline spools the turbos very fast, and seems to pull hard all the way through the power band.

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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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RPMs increase to 900, sorry about the confusion. the rough idle is pretty noticeable especially on deceleration for a light or coming to a stop, you would notice it if you had it. it might be a side effect of the bigger injectors.

i forgot to post this morning, i always leave my monitor on EGT but this morning on a hard pull as i looked down to watch my EGTs the monitor switched to boost on its own... i dont know what that is all about but i couldnt check peak EGTs because as i got into it the monitor would switch. this happened multiple times
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 10:27 AM
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Yup, the brake kills the turbotimer and the high idle. With most remote starters you have to press the brake pedal twice to set the truck into start mode or turbo timer. This mixed with the new TT/HI program just doesn't jive. I had to go back to the PL6 program which is no problem. Sounds like the big injectors have something to do with these issues? I hope my info helps. The Adrenaline is going to work so well, I have a really good feeling!!!
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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The rough idle is something we are doing wrong and has nothing to do with injectors.

I have had remote starts and almost all of my trucks and never had to hit a brake pedal??? That is new to me.


Ok, on the surging thing, what rpms is this happening at? It is great to know that it is still surging but, until I know where I cannot change it.
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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The remote starters on a manual truck are the ones that you have to set with the brake to tell the truck it's in neutral. This stops truck from starting in gear and driving through houses. That's why I wish I had an automatic. I'll go check to see what rpm mine surges at right now.
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by qzilla
Ok, on the surging thing, what rpms is this happening at? It is great to know that it is still surging but, until I know where I cannot change it.
On my truck it will happen at almost any rpm. It seems to start surging at about 8psi of boost. Not sure exactly where it clears up, but I know for sure at 65psi its nice and smooth.

Paul
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by qzilla
... on the surging thing, what rpms is this happening at? ....until I know where I cannot change it.
My automatic surges mainly at under 2100 rpm (say 1600-2000) when maintaining speed or slightly accelerating. No problem when heavy on the throttle.

Seems to be more a throttle position scenario than an RPM condition ..... if that makes sense?

RJ
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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mine surges on the end of gears just before shifts, i can make it surge by accelerating to the "end" of the gear but not quite letting it shift.. hope that makes sense, i will get you some rpm #s here soon.
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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I agree, because I expeirience it one time since I finally got the box on and running and it was as most people have said light acceleration and it only surged for maybe a few seconds, but it would make sense for it to be throttle position related when you look at where a lot of guy have had the surging.
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RowJ
My automatic surges mainly at under 2100 rpm (say 1600-2000) when maintaining speed or slightly accelerating. No problem when heavy on the throttle.

Seems to be more a throttle position scenario than an RPM condition ..... if that makes sense?

RJ
This is my expirence to a "T" it happens most noticably on my truck at about 3/8th to 6/8th of throttle position. Its fine up till about half throttle and then on the other side as well but mid throttle its fairly violent.
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