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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Texas Cowboy
Hammer are those the tock injection lines? If so how did you get them to shine like that? Like the red paint to. I'm using the new cummins red paint for my motor. Also you got a part number on those valve covers. That is pretty good looking!
Look HERE for the Valve covers

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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 10:04 AM
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I'm no expert but if you gained boost, you have just added yourself a nice restriction What manifold did you get?
I got the Banks Hi-Ram Intake.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 10:17 AM
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Thanks a lot S600.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammer
I changed the intake on my 98 12v to a Banks Twin Ram.
I gained zero HP on the Dyno-Jet over the factory unit.What I did gain though was better equalization of the EGT's between the front 3 cylinders and the rear 3 cylinders.I run gauges in both sets of cylinders and instead of them varying 100-150 degrees front 3 to rear 3,they are only off about 50 degrees between them.It was worth the skinned knuckles installing it for what I gained.....Andy

Below is a shot of it on my motor.
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As we all know, a diesel's output is based solely on it's fuel input. With that most improvements to airflow result primarily in EGT reduction.

It does that by the increase in the cylinder's charge air density. More air to absorb the heat input.


BUT, remember, all infernal combustion engines work by way of expanding air using the heat provided by the burning fuel.

So,

The more charge air in the cylinder, coupled with the appropriate additional fuel, the more power available. It's really nice to have equal cylinder pressures (see headgasket) so as to extract all potential without one bad apple spoiling the lot as it were.


As mentioned above, the TwinRam works best in more evenly distributing the incoming charge air. Especially to cylinder no. one as there's a bolt boss in the turn just before the valve ~




Short of milling off the side of the head and bolting a custom full width manifold, you can't do much better imo.


It's no big whoop, folks have been doing it for a while ~






As part of a complete engineered system (engine), it works very well. By itself, added to a stock truck, it's very questionable in power improvements. But if you work the truck, it shines in total EGT control. Banks still markets them for the RV pusher Cummins for example. Both with and without EGR.
They can also be found at Shield Diesel (Sp?) and Ebay.

Hope this helps.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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what can one expect to spend for a intake and head work i want a spray bar for nos an water/meth
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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how much of a drop do you see in EGT's ? i just got my Predator,S&B cold air and Rokkteck muffler installed this week. My egt's will hit 1500 if i dont back off of it will the intake drop them 200 or so? i am new to Diesels but have learned alot from this forum thanks
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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will the intake drop them 200 or so? i am new to Diesels but have learned alot from this forum thanks
Absolutely not. The TwinRam works toward making each cylinder's EGT consistent with the next. That sorta thing.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 05:14 PM
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Afe intake manifold cross section

The intake does make a difference in the daily driving rpm band.Dollar per gain is an individuals pocket book choice.I am happy with it.

Bob
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 11:06 PM
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I am pretty interested in seeing more "home built" setups. I am just redoing my hole intake system and loosing the intercooler on my pull truck and could deffinatly make something for the simple reason like stated above...even EGT #'s between cylinders. Anyone else have more pics?

RyanB
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 24Vford
what can one expect to spend for a intake and head work i want a spray bar for nos an water/meth
You don't want a spray bar for NO2 AND H20/CH3OH !

Originally Posted by RyanB
I am just redoing my hole intake system and loosing the intercooler on my pull truck...
Why are you dispensing with the charge-air cooler?
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by XLR8R
You don't want a spray bar for NO2 AND H20/CH3OH !



Why are you dispensing with the charge-air cooler?

A few reason,
- No room for an intercooler or lets say lack of room in my GMC converison (I had a D-Max one in but wasn't happy)
- The truck is no longer on the road so in reality the IC doesn't do much in the 300ft pull other than act as a filter for catching turbo parts!!!
-I am injecting enough water and running big enough injectors to keep my EGT's down but just want to have a better spread of air to all cylinders.

Ryan
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 11:35 PM
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I think your conversion would still realize a benefit from a CAC... even on a dyno, when there isn't much roadspeed airflow, the intake charge-air temperature drops almost 200*F through the OEM CAC.

Have you tested the truck yet w/o the intercooler?
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 06:57 AM
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Well after thinking about the intake for a while and seeing this post saturday I got working on one yesterday! Most of the final welding is done and now its just grinding the welds smooth and paint but its looking pretty good. Hopefully it does what I wanted!

Here are some of the pics.

RyanB
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 07:45 AM
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That there is right sporty!
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 06:05 AM
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i am looking for a intake that will eliminate the cast intake on the head but i need one that will fit my 24V head with my p-pump

i would like a spray for nos and one for water/meth
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