Originally Posted by Jetpilot
(Post 1581613)
Normally the TST makes best HP on level 6 or 7. Also for dynoing try and use an EZ and not the Smarty, the TST/EZ shows better dyno numbers than the TST Smarty stack. As for bigger sticks jumping above a mach 4 showed no gains...... We took a truck running mach 4's, HRVP, Edge Comp, and a Phat Shat 66 and made 605 RWHP, then changed out for Mach 6's and had no gain.
Doug I'm running a drag comp (5x4), smarty, HRVP44, and just went from M4's to M6's and am now considering M7's or bigger... Am I wasting my time? |
I'd say once the pump dies go to an SO pump an jump to Mach 6's or 7's and you will have some big numbers. I made the dyno runs in my sig with my smarty on and TST on 9/9 for the first dyno and 3/9 for the second dyno. the biggest difference was twin trubo tunning. I have dynoed the TST on all setting from 5 up and I get my best dyno on setting 9. I found out that I only had a TST PM3 and sent it back and now have a TST Comp and need to get back on the dyno.
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Originally Posted by 5.9Excursion
(Post 1596887)
I'm running a drag comp (5x4), smarty, HRVP44, and just went from M4's to M6's and am now considering M7's or bigger... Am I wasting my time?
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I put down 610 with a old piers hrvp, redline and a 40- ht4c set of twins and mach 7's a few years ago. This was on a Isaacs load dyno with 4.10 gears.
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Originally Posted by Ph4tty
(Post 1597337)
I think so. Don's told me that the mach 6 is making the most power with the hrvp currently. As far as I know the highest hp on a hrvp from regular posters in this room is Tiger Rag with 615 uncorrected with mach 6's and bd twins.
I did 696 uncorrected with an I.I. hrvp, SPS62, TST/EZ, and nitrous. |
Originally Posted by rockjeep73
(Post 1646149)
I did 696 uncorrected with an I.I. hrvp, SPS62, TST/EZ, and nitrous.
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Originally Posted by rockjeep73
(Post 1646149)
I did 696 uncorrected with an I.I. hrvp, SPS62, TST/EZ, and nitrous.
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Originally Posted by Why_Try
(Post 1647303)
Makes me want to put the old NOS kit in the garage to use.
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This is an interesting thread.
The whole concept of a HRVP makes me wonder. From what I understand, it's basically an SO -27 B&P assembly with a more aggressive HO cam ring in most cases. This would change the rate of discharge curves. I'm not sure that I think a HRVP is the answer--I mean, we saw Nathan take an SO pump to 700hp on fuel only with twins year ago (03? 04?). What does the HRVP do that the SO can't? I think the HRVP is one of those things that needs more refinement to work well. For example, I'd say it probably needs a little higher pop-off on the injectors to work properly. I'd want to know exactly WHAT is done to make a pump a "HRVP" so that I could see how that would impact the rest of the system and correct for it. We all know that HO pumps make more power from a given injector size up to their fueling limit. But maybe it's not JUST all from higher fuel discharge. What if a bigger injector is more optimal as part of the HO "system" as a whole? What if the rate-of-discharge from a bigger stick is better matched to the HO's pump? What conclusions can we draw from the fact that a M6 won't make more power than an M4 with a HRVP? Perhaps that the rate-of-discharge of an M4 is more optimal with a HRVP? Perhaps it's atomization? If nothing else, this surely seems to point to the M4 as a more *efficient* injector with the HRVP. Yet we can turn around and drop that M6 into a standard SO pump and pick up 70hp or more over the M4. Perhaps the HRVP is actually a step backwards relative to making big power? I mean, we've seen a pretty fair amount of 650hp+ 24V trucks, and how many of them were running HRVPs? Until someone shows me a dyno run where a HRVP of some kind increases fuel-only power with an M8 over an M6 over an M4, I'm not convinced they represent a step forward over an SO pump and a fueling box. Personally, I'm suspecting that Quad's new race box and a plain old SO pump will be the new bar to meet over any stack for max fuel-only 24V power. JMO |
The more I think about it the more I think this II pump responds to bombs just like a HO pump, but has worse manners [verymad]
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We just need a Smarty program to smooth out that horrible idle!!![yuk][yuk][yuk]
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[QUOTE=CarcajouCummins;1583110]Yes, the Smarty kills the upper rpm horsepower.QUOTE]
The smarty does decreases high end HP but I wouldn't say it kills it. When I last dyno'd my 01 it wasn't even a 10rwhp diff between smarty and no smarty. What I did like about the smarty is the HP came on sooner in the RPM range. IMO, I'll loose 10 RWHP if the HP is coming on 300 rpm sooner. |
Originally Posted by dodgediesel
(Post 1647979)
We just need a Smarty program to smooth out that horrible idle!!![yuk][yuk][yuk]
If you turn the tst comp up all the way do you get a ticked off big block kind of idle? Btw who is nadp? Until recently mine idled fine, but now I get a real choppy idle after the thermastat opens :confused: Started some time after I got the tst comp working good *smacks self in forehead* |
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