Front leveling coil spring kit questions
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Front leveling coil spring kit questions
I'm looking at buying a set of 2 1/2" Front Leveling HD Coil Spring Kit from SD Truck Springs, http://www.sdtrucksprings.com/index....ducts_id=10185
I see that other people have bought the shocks so I figure I'll need to buy a set of those for sure but what I am unsure about is anything else I might need to replace due to the 2-1/2" of lift it will be getting. I did not see anything mentioned on the website but was curious if anybody has done either the springs or the rubber leveling kit and if you had to buy something as far as steering linkage or anything. Thanks for any info!
I see that other people have bought the shocks so I figure I'll need to buy a set of those for sure but what I am unsure about is anything else I might need to replace due to the 2-1/2" of lift it will be getting. I did not see anything mentioned on the website but was curious if anybody has done either the springs or the rubber leveling kit and if you had to buy something as far as steering linkage or anything. Thanks for any info!
They look well-made (the wire is heavy guage, and they spacing of the windings is close together).
Compare this to the wimpy, cheap Skyjacker D25 Springs I have:

I'd recommend you contact the business that makes almost all of the springs used by high end suspension companies (like KORE, etc):
http://www.coilsprings.com/truck.aspx
They can whip up any spring you want for your truck, with best possible quality and lowest possible price for it.
DTR member COWHAND (Conrad) I think has these springs--might want to contact him .
JH
Compare this to the wimpy, cheap Skyjacker D25 Springs I have:

I'd recommend you contact the business that makes almost all of the springs used by high end suspension companies (like KORE, etc):
http://www.coilsprings.com/truck.aspx
They can whip up any spring you want for your truck, with best possible quality and lowest possible price for it.
DTR member COWHAND (Conrad) I think has these springs--might want to contact him .
JH
if you think that is expensive, go check out Carli springs, they would be the best, and are not cheap, but you get what you pay for, I have a suspension that actually works and is capable of 10inches of travel with a 2.5 higher than stock spring. my orginal coils were absolutely horrible, every pothole and bump was transmitted thru the truck, no wonder ball joints dont last in these trucks!
just having a stiffer rated spring is going to make the ride worse than stock.
if I recall I paid 500$ canadian for just the coils, and 120 per shock (bilstien 5100).
progressive rate springs are the way to go, I believe there are other manufactures that make a product like carli does, and they are better priced as well, the name excapes me, hopefully someone will post who they were,
just having a stiffer rated spring is going to make the ride worse than stock.
if I recall I paid 500$ canadian for just the coils, and 120 per shock (bilstien 5100).
progressive rate springs are the way to go, I believe there are other manufactures that make a product like carli does, and they are better priced as well, the name excapes me, hopefully someone will post who they were,
National Spring out in California will wind you what ever you want for a coil spring.
Worth looking into, we used them for years for all our off road race truck springs and the springs are still going after 13 years of racing.
Jeff
Worth looking into, we used them for years for all our off road race truck springs and the springs are still going after 13 years of racing.
Jeff
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Looking at all of the high end springs it seems they are made for the guys rompin' thru the mud and cruisin the strip on friday nights. If Carli has 5 different rates(for example) in their coils, my truck will probably crush thru the first two or three once I set it down off the jack stands! 

When your truck tips the scales at over 9500lbs....without trailer and I look at "Off Road" trucks I don't know if they are really in the same neighborhood as what I am dealing with. Probably gonna have to give somebody a call and explain over the phone or maybe email a pic of my pig rig.


When your truck tips the scales at over 9500lbs....without trailer and I look at "Off Road" trucks I don't know if they are really in the same neighborhood as what I am dealing with. Probably gonna have to give somebody a call and explain over the phone or maybe email a pic of my pig rig.

I used to courior/hotshot, and 1800# in the bed allowed the rear springs to lower 2inches, with my old stock stuff and overloads I was dropping 6inches, and the ride is is so smooth, you can hit rail way tracks (multiple tracks) at 50mph and hardly even tell you hit a bump
Something to be said about spring rates, I'm willing to bet a call to some of the guys that do this for a living, will be able to tell you what would work best (spring rate wise)
if your truck is tipping the scales at 9500, thats only 700# more than the posted GVW inside the door.
Something to be said about spring rates, I'm willing to bet a call to some of the guys that do this for a living, will be able to tell you what would work best (spring rate wise)
if your truck is tipping the scales at 9500, thats only 700# more than the posted GVW inside the door.
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I've sent some emails to see what my specific needs are in the eyes of the spring experts as I have no clue. The airbags helped the rear but now have more weight on the front axle. Just need a bigger truck, time to stow away money for a 4500/5500 or 450/550.
You can do some quick calculations and arrive at a good figure for what kind of spring rate you need.
How heavy is the truck? How big of a bump at what speed must it be able to take without bottoming out?
Your last statement is probably true, and pushing your Dodge past its design limitations can be disastrous.
How heavy is the truck? How big of a bump at what speed must it be able to take without bottoming out?
Your last statement is probably true, and pushing your Dodge past its design limitations can be disastrous.
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The last time I had it across the scales was about a week ago and that was with my 16' utility trailer. Scales showed 12,300...empty trailer. Trailer has a warn 12k winch on the nose. When I get going up to the big city and I don't have the trailer behind me going to hit the cat scales at the truck stop and get front and rear numbers for the spring company that I'm talking with.
It's the truck bed for the most part. 4" channel frame runners, cross bracing, 1/8" diamond plate, useless headache rack, just to heavily built for what I need. Working on a new bed that should shave off 500-600 pounds so should get me back where I want. Would like a heavier duty truck but financially not in the cards at the moment. Business is decent but not enough to throw $600-700 a month at a truck payment, especially since my last payment on this one is this month! Want to ride that no payment thing for awhile and sock away some cash for the next rig.
It's the truck bed for the most part. 4" channel frame runners, cross bracing, 1/8" diamond plate, useless headache rack, just to heavily built for what I need. Working on a new bed that should shave off 500-600 pounds so should get me back where I want. Would like a heavier duty truck but financially not in the cards at the moment. Business is decent but not enough to throw $600-700 a month at a truck payment, especially since my last payment on this one is this month! Want to ride that no payment thing for awhile and sock away some cash for the next rig.
I put Coil Spring Specialties on my '02 (and I miss that truck). Much better than the Skyjacker D25's that I had. I would go with shocks that have a longer stroke than stock. I went with Bilstein 5100's (Don't remember the part numbers).
From left to right:
Stock Springs: 18" tall with 7 1/8 coils
Skyjacker D25's: 20" tall with 6 3/4 coils
CSS 2.5" Lift: 19.5" tall with 8 1/8 coils
The CSS 2.5" lift coils are 1.5" taller than the stocker, but do not compress as much.
Unfortunately I do not have ride height measurement for all three springs.

Sorry the quality is bad, but this is the only pic I have of the truck with the CSS springs. The rear is stock, with the exception of airbags, which had some air in them in this pic.

They were about $245 + $30 shipping in 2008. You can get them custom made for what you do or want (tell them if you have a snow plow, a heavy front bumper etc).
~Rob
From left to right:
Stock Springs: 18" tall with 7 1/8 coils
Skyjacker D25's: 20" tall with 6 3/4 coils
CSS 2.5" Lift: 19.5" tall with 8 1/8 coils
The CSS 2.5" lift coils are 1.5" taller than the stocker, but do not compress as much.
Unfortunately I do not have ride height measurement for all three springs.
Sorry the quality is bad, but this is the only pic I have of the truck with the CSS springs. The rear is stock, with the exception of airbags, which had some air in them in this pic.
They were about $245 + $30 shipping in 2008. You can get them custom made for what you do or want (tell them if you have a snow plow, a heavy front bumper etc).
~Rob
I believe that the springs that Kore, and Carli are made by Deaver spring. I could be wrong but its been at least four years since I checked into this. I would never use National spring as I have used them in the past and when the springs they made didn't perform as built they wanted to charge me to re do them. Do your home work and ask questions. make sure that if their is a problem they will fix it.



