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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 12vchevydually
I do I have to say I love the 727 in my 91. They can take a beatin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
my dad's 91 has the 727 and we've worked that thing hard, the only problem we've had with it is the trans shop put a bad converter back in on the rebuild at 200,000 because the clutch packs were starting to slip. it's got 10k of utility bed/tools and has pulled quite a few trailers.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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That would work fine for a GM transmission, but ours don't use vacuum. They use a cable to regulate line pressure, the same cable that signals kickdown operation as well. On the 727s (that our 47's are based off) used a linkage to regulate line pressure and kickdown. And the line pressure can't be any higher than what the pump can create, and that is limited by engine RPM...back to the weakness of having an automatic behind a diesel. At 1000 rpms, there just isn't enough pressure being created by the pump (on a stock transmission) to handle the torque being produced by a modified engine.

Jim


Originally Posted by bill50cal
wrong wrong wrong the line pressure is controled by a thing called a vacume modulator and NOT by rpm! the trouble is a diesel does not have manafoild vacume like a gas motor so you need to use a vacume pump and a regulator on the throttle. the next trick is to get it set right so the vacume drop will match torque rise. second problem will be shift timming also controled by vacume + govoner. all this can be worked out with time and $$$. the 518 can work without any computer to engage OD all you need is a pressure switch set at what govoner pressure you OD to come on

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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 06:22 AM
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I guess you did not read my complete post. as stated you need manifold vacume so you would need a vacume pump and a vacume regulator on the throttle ie GM and FORD on there early diesels. and I will say it again it can make more than enough line pressure to hold our engines at 1000 RPM unless you have a big internal leak. RPM is a function of voluim and the regulator system is pressure control!! also as stated the vacume system also controls shift timming as does the cable or linkage on the chrysler units and not just kickdown.as to the amount of line pressure needed to hold have you ever compaird the two as to the amount of line they run? I think you might be suprised just how close they are and line pressure can either be your friend or enemy as there is a direct line as to pressure rise and heat.


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Originally Posted by NHDiesel
That would work fine for a GM transmission, but ours don't use vacuum. They use a cable to regulate line pressure, the same cable that signals kickdown operation as well. On the 727s (that our 47's are based off) used a linkage to regulate line pressure and kickdown. And the line pressure can't be any higher than what the pump can create, and that is limited by engine RPM...back to the weakness of having an automatic behind a diesel. At 1000 rpms, there just isn't enough pressure being created by the pump (on a stock transmission) to handle the torque being produced by a modified engine.

Jim
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