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Old 02-19-2006, 04:03 PM
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What's a Kilo Volt?

Ok, here's the deal; I just bought a volt meter specifically to test my electric fences. (I didn't know if they were working or not, and NO, I'm not gonna just grab onto 'em!) So this new meter comes with no explanations or instructions, tho I kinda figured that the long pointy thing on the end of the wire gets stuffed into the ground, and the short one at the top of the meter gets touched to the electric fence wire. So I do just that, and it tells me I have 1.4 kV.

Whoppee! So NOW all I know that there's something in the wire. I still don't know if that's good or bad, hence the question; What the heck is a Kilo Volt?

And just outta curiosity, is this AC or DC voltage in the electric fence wire?

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1kv == 1000 volts
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I think he meant is 1.4 kilo volts normal for an electric fence or low or high or what....
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Well, if that was what he was asking ....
then that seems low. Does your energizer have any output specs on the box?

The signals coming out are usually pulse modulated from N kV to ~0V.
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My lowest powered charger is 5.5 K.V. rated for 10 miles of fence. Sounds like you may have a little corrosion or somthing shorting out the fence.

My Bigest charger is a old mechanical point type machine. I tested it with the normal tester and blew the tester. NOT going to touch that one.

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Don't wanna touch it? Just take a leak on it , that should tell ya if it's working or not...

I like the fencers rated for 40 miles of fence , folks, around here , if your cows are 40 miles from the barn , THERE IS A PROBLEM...
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think about it,,,if you have a perfect 40 acre square,you have 1 mile of fence........dont be skeered!grab it!...................bama
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With an open circuit, the output should be around 10 - 15 KV (15,000 volts). The less resistance to ground will decrease the voltage, 50 ohm will drop the output to 4 - 5KV.
My guess is that you have a short somewhere. Check for grass, weeds, etc. Sometimes, if you have lots of moisture between the hot and ground, you will lose power output. More so with treated posts since they use a salt solution.
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Originally Posted by Timmay2
I think he meant is 1.4 kilo volts normal for an electric fence or low or high or what....
Well, yeah. I guess I meant that. But I have no baseline to go from when I don't even know what the reading on the meter means!

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Well, if that was what he was asking ....
then that seems low. Does your energizer have any output specs on the box?
The signals coming out are usually pulse modulated from N kV to ~0V.
No, no output specs on the charger or the box it came in. And I appreciate the reply, I really do. But I have NO idea what 'N kV to ~0V' means!

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My lowest powered charger is 5.5 K.V. rated for 10 miles of fence. Sounds like you may have a little corrosion or somthing shorting out the fence.
I hope not... everything is new! I checked it this afternoon just to make sure before I started taking meter readings and everything looks good. Nothing touching the wire except air!

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Don't wanna touch it? Just take a leak on it , that should tell ya if it's working or not... I like the fencers rated for 40 miles of fence , folks, around here , if your cows are 40 miles from the barn , THERE IS A PROBLEM...
I might be just a dumb janitor, but I know what NOT to pee on! YOU come do a 'leak-test' on it! My charger says it's rated for 5 miles of fence, and it's charging MAYBE, a 1/4 mile. 200' X 250', one strand at the top of the fence.

So if I unnerstand all this right, maybe I should get a bigger charger?

Thanks for all the replies!

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Originally Posted by shortround
Sometimes, if you have lots of moisture between the hot and ground, you will lose power output. More so with treated posts since they use a salt solution.
Hmmm, that brings a thought to mind... the ground wire I have running from the charger to the ground rod is just another piece of fence wire. 14 Gauge aluminum I think. Is that a bad thing?

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No , that charger will still give a pretty good tickle. How is the earth ground? Did you use a seperate rod from the AC power? Doing that will make a really big difference.


Soil moisture is also critical for the charger. I've even seen some areas have to salt the ground rod for proper operation.


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Originally Posted by sherod
Did you use a seperate rod from the AC power? Doing that will make a really big difference.Soil moisture is also critical for the charger. I've even seen some areas have to salt the ground rod for proper operation.
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Yes, I used a brand new, 8 foot copper rod, driven into the ground right at the post the charger is mounted to. Ground moisture I don't know about. It's all pure blue clay here, so I would *think* there'd be sufficient moisture.

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Maybe you aren't getting a good reading on your meter.
Make sure you have a good ground to the meter.
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I'd say you are good to go. Is this a solar charger with backup battery or a straight AC powered unit. If it is solar, it's kickin. I've had several of them. Just watch for internal corrosion on the backup batteries.

Just invite some folks over who don't know about chargers. At least ONE of them will try it out.

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