dont blame the mexicans its us and the STUPID people we put in to office.I go to mexico every year. there is a lot more freedom down south them you could ever have here you just play by there rules. we have let the moraly bankrupt and social retards dictate how we will live in this country. how many of our freedoms do we need to give up before we will feel or be safe. until we vote the SOBs off there thrones and put people in who will put the US of A first (the people and country)
and get rid of groups like aclu we cant do a thing
just my .02 but its right

 

I do not disagree. However if you only have a Green bad apple and a Red bad apple to vote for what can we do? We dont have a choice.

 

The problem with voting them out is that too many people "want" things, and the politicians promise them. Everyone wants something for nothing. Think of all the millions of people on welfare. Do you think they would vote in someone who is honerable and would cut the handouts in order to reduce our taxes? How about all of the businesses who receive government grants and donations? All of the liberals who get grants for art museums and other "cultural programs"? They don't want THEIR funding cut!

I do have a couple other thoughts, but i doubt they would very popular. Its about schooling. First, I don't think my tax money should be spent on sports programs. its not that I'm against sports, but I remember my days in high school. All of my classes had old, worn out books, limited supplies, and 20-30 year old worn out desks. But the football and baseball teams always had new uniforms and equipment. Sports are fine, but let them come up with their own funding from donations or fundraisers. Also, I don't think sports ahouls have anything to do with college recruitment. Playing sports in college is fine, but student shouldn't be accepted or given a scholarship based on sports. They are in school to LEARN. We have enough people graduating from high school and even college who can barely read and write.

Next, I think people's taxes should be partially based on how many kids they have. If someone wants to have 10 kits, they shoudl be prepared to pay for their education. I pay over $1000 a year in "school tax" on my property taxes, and I don't even have any kids! My wife does have one son from a previous marriage though, but he is no longer in school.

Taxes were originally implemented to provide basic funding for the government to run, and thats how I feel it should still be. Pay for things such as roads and highways, the military, and the basic running of the government.

I know my views on sports programs will be very unpopular with the diehard southerners who live for football. Oh well, its my opinion and you can't have it...get one of your own.


Jim

 

You think that's unpopular, how about having to pay taxes in order to be able to vote? I realize that it, like all ideas, has flaws but it would serve to eliminate the politician buying the welfare vote.

Flame away.

 

As much as that idea sounds very tempting, voting IS a basic right (and not like every welfare mother thinks having the government pay for her twinkies and Coke is a right), so I would have to disagree.

Jim

 

You forgot about cigs and booze, NH.

Chris

 

I have one kid, and would pay taxes for her schooling, no problem. Hell under the influence of adult beverages, I stated that everyone should be "fixed" at birth and the earn the right to reproduce! Everyone kinda looked at me like.. Well I still think this sober. OFF TOPIC.... I know people who would do anything to have kids, and would probably be awesome parents, yet some of these other people pop em out like pop corn!!! And we pay for it!

 

right yourself in. you voted (so others can't use that against you) and you didnt vote for a moron.

 

Is this possible??? Man imagine the power we had if we knew all those little laws that "they" dont mention anymore........

 

This is actually a great idea, and it's one the Founders instituted at first. That was wise, imo.

The Founders rightly understood that most governmental affairs had to do with property, and that the affairs of the government should be left to those who have a vested interest in them.
Thus the decision to limit the vote to only those who owned land. Otherwise, it would be including the "foxes" in the discussion on how best to secure the "chickens."


This principle, applied today, would lead us to conclude that those Americans who cannot show a net taxation at the end of the year should not vote. By net taxation, I mean the actually pay a least SOME tax, not this crap of paying $3000 in taxes and getting a $10,000 "refund" for more than they ever had withheld.

When Tyler wrote his history of the Athenian republic:Gentlemen, this is where we are today. Americans have discovered that they can vote themselves money from the public trust. Social Security, Welfare, Medicare, Medicaid, even cancer research all fall under this umbrella.

Thus, the only solution to find ways to limit what people can extort from others using the police power of government. The PRIMARY instrument by which the government exerts its police power is in the form of Taxation. Moreover, our American forebears understood the wrongness of "taxation without representation", as decrying this condition became their motto. "No taxation without Representation!!".

Now we are faced the another great evil, resulting from breaking the marriage between a say in government and those who finance it. Only NOW, we have the OPPOSITE form of tyranny.

NOW, our motto should be:
Voting is NOT, not should it be considered an unalienable right. A democracy is far better served without the votes of the apathetic, the tyrannical, the ignorant, and the illiterate.

Flame suit on.

 

Here is one that gets brought up every once in a while, but isn't very popular (at least not with the liberals): before qualifying for welfare, people should be "fixed". Personally I think its an awesome idea, since its the welfare mommas who pop them out, and add up how much extra will be in their next check.

Jim

 

I'll throw another one out here since we're talking about voting. I sincerely believe that elected representatives (congressmen and senators) should only be paid the average of what their constituents make. If they represent a district that makes an average of $30K/year, they make $30K. AND, they get the same social security benefits as the rest of us. None of this ending salary for life business.


Anyone care to ask what I think about term limits?!?


Flame away.

 

Great idea! Too bad that the ones effected are the ones that make the rules.

 

My opinion.

the whole immigrants having to prove how usefull they would be to our country before being allowed any kind of entrance into our country makes complete sense, we are to lax on our policy's. Mixing pot bedamned. Agree on what some of you are saying, We need to heat the pot back up and get it mixing because we have to many different people in our country not Learning the native language etc.

We as a People of the United States of America, need to lock our gates up tight, shut off immigrant entrance, and start kicking people out for a few years.

and KICK OUT any useless person in our society that has no want to work This country was made on the backs of the working man, not on the person that sat back and said Ill just sit over here and take 10% of your money because.... Im on wellfare, what the hell is that?

ANYONE KNOW WHAT DARWINISM IS? THESE PEOPLE ARE THE ONES THAT WOULD HAVE DIED. THE STRONG ALWAYS COME OUT ON TOP, UNLESS you are in our society, where its alright if you are lazy, or you hate the country you live in. we will still support you... so that you can make MORE LAZY CHILDREN.

and any political figure that has done us wrong allowing such stupid policies to arise needs to go, OLD GLORY is here to stay, dont like it leave, GOD is here to stay, dont like it leave, our language is here to stay, dont like? get the hell out.

If we have riots, who cares? bring the military in and shut them down. They are "hopefully" a small portion of our population. Kick them out since they dont like how things should be.

What people forget is that the military is there to protect us, even from people in our own country, we need to tighten our belts and get ready for when the S**T hits the fan.

Because you do know its going to happen eventually, this country isnt bullet proof and every year I live in it, I know somethings gotta let loose eventually, you run an engine to hard, it breaks, What if you overtax a country's ability's? it falls.

 

A couple of comments. We do not have a democracy, never did. A democracy can not stand due to the problems that we face now. We were formed as a representative republic. Greece had a democracy. The terms started to be used about the second world war.

If the law were followed and an illegal was placed in jail for six months, this would stop very fast. They come here to send money home, can't do that from jail. Put them on work farms for six months, then deport them.

Go to the Al Jezerra web site and look at the article about America apologizing to the world, interesting.